Coronavirus Outbreak...

[lilpixieofterror]

And this is just typical 2A apologist logic. "Doing X won't fix problems 100% of the time so X is pointless." If giving proper training nontrivially *reduces* the spread of Coronavirus, and you will have the burden of proof to claim that it doesn't, then proper equipment and training is warranted even if it is not a panacea.

[shunyadragon]

. . . while the conservatives resort to cartoons, and air ball name calling responses like this.

[JimL]

You're not really a supervisor, are you Lilpix?

[lilpixieofterror]

You're not really a supervisor, are you Lilpix?

[JimL]

And because some people might ignore them, you don't think there should be mandated company safegaurds, safety rules and safety equiptment available?

[oxmixmudd]

That's not an answer to my question pix. Well it is, you just want to blame the workers. It's all their fault the people at the meat plants and the doctors and the nurses on the front lines are dying and sick. Not unexpected, but very, very sad.

[lilpixieofterror]

And because some people might ignore them, you don't think there should be mandated company safegaurds, safety rules and safety equiptment available?

Did I say they should or do you even understand what I said?

[lilpixieofterror]

That's not an answer to my question pix. Well it is, you just want to blame the workers. It's all their fault the people at the meat plants and the doctors and the nurses on the front lines are dying and sick. Not unexpected, but very, very sad.

[shunyadragon]

Countries like South Korea, Japan and Germany have a cultural tradition of following rules, and I believe their Industries are safer and they make better cars.

[oxmixmudd]

Your willingness to cast blame on those risking their lives to provide for our needs is embarrasing.

[NorrinRadd]

Good luck.

Thanks. So far, so good.

[NorrinRadd]

There are a good number of people being fools wrt the virus in th US at the current time.

Maybe. In the case of the action by UPMC, it could be that their clinical experience treating patients plus their research experience in working on a vaccine makes their understanding comparable to any of the other "experts," and makes their decision an informed and proper one.

[oxmixmudd]

Maybe. In the case of the action by UPMC, it could be that their clinical experience treating patients plus their research experience in working on a vaccine makes their understanding comparable to any of the other "experts," and makes their decision an informed and proper one.

Without comprehensive testing, overestimating the percentage of asymptomatic cases is irresponsible, which is what they have done.

[shunyadragon]

Without comprehensive testing, overestimating the percentage of asymptomatic cases is irresponsible, which is what they have done.

I consider the percentage of asymptomatic and mild cases an unknown, except for estimates from China and South Korea as high as 80% or more. I don't understand your comment concerning the 'overestimate' of asymptomatic cases and mild cases. Evidence indicates that this percentage of the population among young infected can be very high. In fact a primary vector of infection in the pandemic. In fact the main vector in Assisted Living Facilities is caretakers with asymptomatic of mild symptom, but after the fact testing.

[lilpixieofterror]

Countries like South Korea, Japan and Germany have a cultural tradition of following rules, and I believe their Industries are safer and they make better cars.