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[lilpixieofterror]

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[simplicio]

My bad, I neglected to account for the extreme literalistic tendencies here, so I should have explained myself better.

I asked just how is our response different, then gave an answer: I know, we don't use the camp system. By camp system, I meant the host of tools which a totaliarian regime relies on. Since we are not totalitarian, then it should be tacitly assumed that we do not have totalitarian methods. So one would expect to see different methods used when embarking o similar policies.

[lilpixieofterror]

My bad, I neglected to account for the extreme literalistic tendencies here, so I should have explained myself better.

I asked just how is our response different, then gave an answer: I know, we don't use the camp system. By camp system, I meant the host of tools which a totaliarian regime relies on. Since we are not totalitarian, then it should be tacitly assumed that we do not have totalitarian methods. So one would expect to see different methods used when embarking o similar policies.

Is that too complicated for you to understand?

[simplicio]

A Judas analogy. Gee, I wonder if Rum tugger would see anything wrong in this post. Nawwww, that would be too much to expect from a Twebber.

[simplicio]

Is that too complicated for you to understand?

Yes it is easy. Anything is acceptable as long as it falls short of the totalitarian methods. But I disagree. The US made the same false steps as China, although it used lesser methods. And people will pay the price.

China has the disease under control, and is now providing aid to Europe. And is lifting the mass quarantine. They did get a lot of things right in this, things which they presented to the world, and we in the US ignored.

Inciting panic is wrong, the US uses different measure than China on those who needlessly incite panic.

[lilpixieofterror]

A Judas analogy. Gee, I wonder if Rum tugger would see anything wrong in this post. Nawwww, that would be too much to expect from a Twebber.

You are making excuses, for China and their lies, might as well ask for a check. Judas at least got something, for selling out.

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes it is easy. Anything is acceptable as long as it falls short of the totalitarian methods. But I disagree. The US made the same false steps as China, although it used lesser methods. And people will pay the price.

China has the disease under control, and is now providing aid to Europe. And is lifting the mass quarantine. They did get a lot of things right in this, things which they presented to the world, and we in the US ignored.

Inciting panic is wrong, the US uses different measure than China on those who needlessly incite panic.

[rogue06]

BREAKING NEWS!

Possible cure found






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[carpedm9587]

Comments like that make me wonder which team you're cheering for.

And THAT is exactly what is wrong with this country - that so many think in terms of teams and tribes instead of examining the issues and coming to their own conclusions, without regard for "which team" they might or might not be aligning with.

[rogue06]

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[rogue06]

Joe Biden was lobbed several softballs by the MSM so that he would not get upset and lose it like he's done on multiple occasions

Click on to play

Well at least he didn't forget where he was an wander away off camera

[Mountain Man]

A piece in the The Atlantic (hardly a bastion of conservatism or even allowing their side to be presented) for those who keep trying to minimize what the Chicoms did

Source: China Is Avoiding Blame by Trolling the World

Beijing is successfully dodging culpability for its role in spreading the coronavirus.

Source

© Copyright Original Source

I never knew The Atlantic was full of virulent racists, yet here they are trying to blame the poor, innocent Chinese government for something that is clearly President Trump's fault.

[carpedm9587]

Have you not been reading the data on testing? Here, let me show you:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-testing

² while ours is 36 people per KM²

84% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas that range in population density from about 150 people per square mile for the smaller urban areas to a whopping 29,000 people per square mile for some of our largest cities. The population of our ten largest cities exceeds the entire population of South Korea with a population density that is at least ten times that of South Korea. Comparing averages for countries as diverse as the U.S. and South Korea either betrays a lack of understanding of basic statistics, or comprises a very disingenuous argument.

In this case, a median population density would be a better choice. If you looked at the entire population of South Korea and asked "what is the median population density experienced by a South Korean citizen" and compared it to the U.S., I think you would find that the U.S. has FAR more people living at a higher population density than the the median South Korean citizen.

[Mountain Man]

Yes they did try to lie, cover up, squelch the free flow of information, going so far as to silence health care professionals. And just how is that different from the US' response? I know, we don't use a camp system.

The fact is that we are relying, in part, on models developed by the Chinese. We are following the draconian methods of locking down society and the economy on a scale which is unnecessary in some countries which embarked on a different course.

I know you and Rogue cannot contemplate a reality in which people disagree with you based on a reasoned analysis of the evidence without being in the employ of the China Communist Party. That sounds like the line Christians use about da debbil being behind every idea which disagrees with the Christian who can interpret scripture with divine precision.

Are you pro life? The communal church services present a quandary, a moral dilemma, for the case of the large gatherings on Sunday. One indirect effect of that worship is people dying. What does "Choose life" mean in that situation of holding church service in the midst of a plague? And if you take the wrong course of action, are you in the employ of Satan, who hates life?

Wow, that's a new take.

"I'm not excusing China, I'm saying that the US has been just as bad."

Really?

[Mountain Man]

And THAT is exactly what is wrong with this country - that so many think in terms of teams and tribes instead of examining the issues and coming to their own conclusions, without regard for "which team" they might or might not be aligning with.

True. You and firstfloor wouldn't be the first liberals to hope that this crisis is managed just poorly enough to hurt President Trump's re-election chances. You have even said on numerous occasions that you would happily endure hardships (with little regard for how it might hurt anyone else) if it meant the President's ouster. That's a pretty warped perspective.