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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostYes, it is, it's democratically regulated capitalism, hence "democratic socialism."Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou're just trolling us, aren't you? Because what you just said is like saying, "This paper is black, hence it's white."Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, it is, it's democratically regulated capitalism, hence "democratic socialism." You're simply arguing over the word. Universal healthcare is socialism, free education is socialism. The U.S. itself has socialist policies.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBernie stuck his foot in his mouth with the hispanic vote after his praise of Castro..so much for "democratic socialism" - Cuba is outright communism. And Bernie keeps praising them.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBernie stuck his foot in his mouth with the hispanic vote after his praise of Castro..so much for "democratic socialism" - Cuba is outright communism. And Bernie keeps praising them.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...omments-117213Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThis is what bugs me about "democratic socialists" - They keep pointing to the Netherlands and saying that is what they want, but then they keep calling it socialism. If what they want is a capitalist "welfare state" then why not call it that instead of "democratic socialism?" Socialism has bad connotations. So why use the term if that is not what they actually want?
I think they want actual socialism, but they know nobody will go for that, so they water it down, and point to the Netherlands and say that is what they really want, and label is as "socialism" because they want to ease the people into accepting the idea of actual socialism and they get more people onboard. A bit like the old story about boiling a frog by warming up the water a little at a time.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostThat's a good point. Sanders is actually a 'social democrat' if you look only at his policy proposals and not his self-labeling. I think he's too rhetorically ossified from his old lefty days in the 60's when he really was a socialist.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostThat's a good point. Sanders is actually a 'social democrat' if you look only at his policy proposals and not his self-labeling. I think he's too rhetorically ossified from his old lefty days in the 60's when he really was a socialist.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBernie stuck his foot in his mouth with the hispanic vote after his praise of Castro..so much for "democratic socialism" - Cuba is outright communism. And Bernie keeps praising them.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWe don't have universal healthcare, and free education is not socialism. In a socialist system, the schools would be entirely run by the federal government; our schools are regulated by the federal government, but run at the local level.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBernie stuck his foot in his mouth with the hispanic vote after his praise of Castro..so much for "democratic socialism" - Cuba is outright communism. And Bernie keeps praising them.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is what I said, Bernie is still largely a blank slate. As people get to know him (his policies) the more they will dislike him.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...omments-117213
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