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  • #61
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Whatever you say, Sam.

    The fact is that Trump's A-Team knows the law far better than either of us, and the precedent cited is making up a part of their opening arguments.
    Trump's "A-Team" has lost these legal arguments in every single court case they've tried them in.

    --Sam
    "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sam View Post
      Trump's "A-Team" has lost these legal arguments in every single court case they've tried them in.

      --Sam
      In fact, it hasn't been tested in court because Schiff and his gang of crooks withdrew the subpoenas as soon they were challenged.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        In fact, it hasn't been tested in court because Schiff and his gang of crooks withdrew the subpoenas as soon they were challenged.
        Must've been difficult to read the cited article and believe it supports your points while ignoring the content.

        Schiff is currently on the Senate floor explaining patiently how the Kupperman subpoena applies directly to the McGahn subpoena case. Which I will remind you, the Trump administration has lost twice.


        ETA: Mea culpa: the McGahn appellate case is still pending. The Trump has lost twice on subpoenas relating to document production. It's lost once on compelling witnesses honoring subpoenas.


        --Sam
        Last edited by Sam; 01-21-2020, 05:23 PM.
        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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        • #64
          Um... Trump's team didn't lose the Kupperman case. His lawsuit was dismissed but only because the House withdrew the subpoena.

          As for Schiff, Jay Sekulow schooled him by quoting Schiff's own words back to him.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Um... Trump's team didn't lose the Kupperman case. His lawsuit was dismissed but only because the House withdrew the subpoena.

            As for Schiff, Jay Sekulow schooled him by quoting Schiff's own words back to him.
            An impressive inability to follow both legal analysis and discussion topics goin' on here. Kupperman's suit mirrored McGahn's in that both were contesting a lawful subpoena on the grounds that the WH had asserted complete immunity from even appearing before the House in pursuit of a subpoena.

            That legal argument was soundly rejected in McGahn's case and will very likely lose on appeal shortly.

            I say this for the benefit of others.

            --Sam
            "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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            • #66
              The McGahn case will probably ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #67
                As usual, this is required reading. The set-up here is Schumer's motion to present new witnesses and documents during the trial:

                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Sounds like a great rule --- we actually have a "no technology at the table" rule.

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                  • #69

                    ... You sure you're not supposed to buying a Nintendo Switch?
                    "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Sam View Post
                      ... You sure you're not supposed to buying a Nintendo Switch?
                      Used consoles and games are much cheaper than buying new. I keep telling myself that I could save a lot of money if I had the discipline to keep myself one console generation behind. But I don't.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Used consoles and games are much cheaper than buying new. I keep telling myself that I could save a lot of money if I had the discipline to keep myself one console generation behind. But I don't.
                        Definitely good reasons to buy the last generation consoles ... you just gotta be sure that's what you're supposed to be bringin' home.

                        That said, going Switch over Wii U is definitely worth it, if affordable. Huge, categorical improvement.
                        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Sam View Post
                          ... You sure you're not supposed to buying a Nintendo Switch?
                          Oh god he just said Nintendo. That could mean anything!

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                          • #73
                            I got one I can sell you cheap!

                            I'll never forget the day my wife told me our granddaughter was going home from Church with another couple to play with his Wii.

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
                              Oh god he just said Nintendo. That could mean anything!
                              Friend, I am telling you this for your own health, sanity, and relationship with your son:

                              He means a Nintendo Switch. Probably with Smash Bros. or Pokemon Sword.

                              --Sam

                              ETA: also pleassse refrain from using God's name flippantly! It's among our most sacred treasures.
                              Last edited by Sam; 01-21-2020, 10:01 PM.
                              "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                Used consoles and games are much cheaper than buying new. I keep telling myself that I could save a lot of money if I had the discipline to keep myself one console generation behind. But I don't.

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