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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostNon sequitur. France wasn't seceding from the US. Federal property in seceding states should have been the subject of negotiations, not confiscation.
That's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNegotiations were ongoing for almost a half a year.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo? They still refused to leave. Again Bill, if England refused to leave a garrison that controlled the Boston harbor what would we have done? Yes, kicked them out. The South gave them a number of chances to leave peacefully.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThat's my point. The South tried to negotiate after secession. Once the North refused, the South was within their right to expel the invaders.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostOh, OK...That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is a lie Shuny, stop lying about me. I'm presenting how the South would view these things, NOWHERE did I say I agree. And there is no Constitutional prohibition against succession, that is a FACT.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes there is, secession was not ruled to be illegal at the time, but has since, in 1869, been ruled to be unconstitutional, which means that it was unconstitutional at the time as well.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat "some court" was the Supreme Court, and how they interpret the constitution takes precedence over your interpretation.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAgain Jim, show me that in the Constitution, after all the Court decided against Dred Scott, and up held racial segregation laws...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIn the Articles of the Confederation-the Nations first Constitution, the original states agreed that they were a "Perpetual Union" and so any state entering into that Union was bound by the same agreement. And according to the Supreme Court the Constitution implies that in all it's provisions, the U.S. is an indestructable Union of indestructable States. You may not agree with that interpretation, but you''ll have to make that argument to the Supreme Court.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, the Articles of the Confederation are not US law - period. And if you want to go there we can say that the South was following principles found in the Declaration. You have no argument. Also are you saying the Supreme Court is never wrong?
If the CSA won, it would be a moot point.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostI find it sad that people I discuss this with are ignorant that secession happened 6 months before Sumter. They typically think both happened simultaneously.
Fort Sumpter is significant because the dispute over real estate moved both sides into the realization that secession meant a shooting war.
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostThey seceded, and both sides did not really know what to do, each hoping for and working toward an amicable settlement. Mobilizations were half hearted.
Fort Sumpter is significant because the dispute over real estate moved both sides into the realization that secession meant a shooting war.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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