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Democrats' Self-Inflicted Diversity Vulnerability

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  • #31
    Does it even matter? Was it a problem in 2016 with Hillary vs Bernie?
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      More on Democrats’ Diversity Blues

      The top Democratic candidates will soon take the stage at the next debate, and oh boy, are party leaders squirming. Up until late last week, when Andrew Yang made the cutoff by a hair, all six of those making their pitch were white—#debatesowhite, as the hashtag called it. Worse yet, half of those Caucasians are old enough to be carrying Medicare cards. As Frank Bruni wrote in last week’s Sunday column, “for a party that celebrates diversity, pitches itself to underdogs and prides itself on being future-minded and youth-oriented, that’s a freaky, baffling turn of events.”

      Some blamed the freaky turn on billionaire money crowding out the merely rich little guys, while others pointed a finger at the DNC for a dysfunctional qualifying system and a primary calendar privileging Iowa and New Hampshire, both largely white states. Also popular is the theory of “electability”—if voters’ top priority is nominating someone who can beat Donald Trump, white old-timers seem like the safest bet. But the facts behind #debatesowhite suggest that, despite the best efforts of progressives and the party establishment to hype 2020 candidates in terms of their race, gender, and LGBTQ status, the Democratic rank-and-file have limited use for identity politics.

      Remember that the Dems started the year with a historically diverse field: two blacks, an Asian, a Hispanic, and an out gay man. In the following months, a sizable cluster of women joined the fray. Finally, Americans would see a field that “looked like America.” Yet 12 months later, all the nonwhite candidates—except Yang, who has explicitly disavowed identity politics—are either going or gone. Even Kamala Harris, whose Jamaican father and Indian mother made her intersectionally intersectional—black, Asian, female, and immigrant to boot—will not be standing in front of a podium.
      The difference with this article and the previous article is that blacks don't consider gay folks a minority. In fact, this could be even more detrimental to Pete in the eyes of blacks if he gets picked and tries to use his gayness to identify as a "persecuted minority." Considering that identify politics is a common platform used by the left, he might even make that mistake to try and trump his white maleness, or others might make that mistake for him.
      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by seanD View Post
        The difference with this article and the previous article is that blacks don't consider gay folks a minority. In fact, this could be even more detrimental to Pete in the eyes of blacks if he gets picked and tries to use his gayness to identify as a "persecuted minority." Considering that identify politics is a common platform for the left, he might even make that mistake, or others might make that mistake for him.
        That's part of the complex mix, for sure. Blacks generally resent GLBXTX+x comparing themselves to the struggles and history of blacks.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          That's part of the complex mix, for sure. Blacks generally resent GLBXTX+x comparing themselves to the struggles and history of blacks.
          You are forgetting all of the white people that identify as black.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            That's part of the complex mix, for sure. Blacks generally resent GLBXTX+x comparing themselves to the struggles and history of blacks.
            The argument I've heard presented is that a lesbian or gay person could walk into a restaurant or a hotel and get service (because nobody would know what their sexual preference was) whereas there was a time when blacks were refused such service on sight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              The argument I've heard presented is that a lesbian or gay person could walk into a restaurant or a hotel and get service (because nobody would know what their sexual preference was) whereas there was a time when blacks were refused such service on sight.
              EGGzackly!!! A gay or lesbian generally has to "come out of the closet", where a black is born as a black.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                You are forgetting all of the white people that identify as black.
                Including that lady who was the head of the Spokane, Washington Chapter of the NAACP?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  The argument I've heard presented is that a lesbian or gay person could walk into a restaurant or a hotel and get service (because nobody would know what their sexual preference was) whereas there was a time when blacks were refused such service on sight.
                  A lot of it is that, but a lot of it stems from religious and cultural beliefs. And I'm not talking about Christianity, but Islam. The Nation of Islam -- and certain black supremacist sects that flow from that group -- has huge influence on blacks here in LA, particularly those in lower income neighborhoods. They absolutely detest homosexuality, much more so than your average traditional Christian. In fact, and I kid you not, a lot of them believe it's actually a conspiracy used by the white man (usually the Jews) as a way to extinguish black families.
                  "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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