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My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThere can't be unlimited free speech. And that kind of perverse speech wasn't the intent to start with. The intent is to prevent the government from forcefully shutting up it's critics.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWhat did I say the first time? Free speech = everything should be protected if it's only verbal. If you want to cry fire in movie theater, you should be allowed to do it. But if anyone gets hurt, you pay the legal consequences. It makes everything simple that way. No gray areas, no slippery slopes, no one person or group of people determining want language is acceptable or protected and what isn't. FYI, my father was black.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMy only argument with seer was that it seems to be just a matter of his being rude and disrespectful to someone he just doesn't like being that he was perfectly fine with calling Donna by her preferred name.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Then give us a straight answer Tass, should the force of law be used for those who refuse to use specific pro-nouns?
No, I think Christ is a historic person as related in the New Testament, and arguably the single most influential person in human history.
But we can prove that Chris is not a woman. You can not demonstrate that Christ is not a historic figure.
isAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIn general I agree.
It only becomes an issue when a particular person is being subjected to repeated insults in vastly greater volume and frequency than others. People being picked on and bullied in such a way is harmful to them and has measurable negative consequences - e.g. much worse health outcomes (chronic stress, heart attacks, strokes), or drives them to drink or to drugs or suicide at much higher rates than non-bullied people. The saying 'sticks and stones my break my bones, but names will never hurt me' is empirically false.
For that reason it's reasonable for schools to attempt to limit bullying. For that reason it's reasonable for society to attempt to limit bullying toward adults who are at risk of it. That's why I think hate-speech laws can have a place, because people in minority groups might be picked on and insulted on a daily basis by everyone they interact with. If instead we can give these people are relatively normal life free of abnormally large amount of bullying, for a relatively low price of having a law banning nastiness toward them, that seems like a large net social gain for a relatively low social cost.
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Did you know that it is against the law in Canada to not refer to someone by their chosen gender's gender or name.
A BC father was hauled into court recently for refusing to refer to his child by the name and gender forced upon the child by the stepmother.
That's a thread around here somewhere.
So, hate-speech here includes gender shifting pronouns.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostDid you know that it is against the law in Canada to not refer to someone by their chosen gender's gender or name.
A BC father was hauled into court recently for refusing to refer to his child by the name and gender forced upon the child by the stepmother.
That's a thread around here somewhere.
So, hate-speech here includes gender shifting pronouns.
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWe agree that case is bizarre and an indication of something fundamentally wrong with the current direction of thought on these issues.
We have Trudeau to thank for personkind jokes and the current hate speech laws.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostI'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're white."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostThis thread has sure devolved from the topic of the hypocrisy of the enviro-fanatics.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostCare to elaborate?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
My Personal Blog
My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)
Quill Sword
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