Trump issues at least two pardons to service members

[NorrinRadd]

Source: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/ex-navy-secretary-richard-spencer-trump-doesnt-understand-military.html

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That steaming pile of butt-hurt brain-poo from Spencer would only make sense if there were a Constitutional requirement for POTUS candidates to have military experience.

[Teallaura]

And Trump!

No, you're pretty messed up with Trump.

[lilpixieofterror]

He didn't "decide" to be "judge and jury" over the UCMJ, Shuny - it is his Constitutional responsibility as Commander-in-Chief.

[lilpixieofterror]

Disagree, especially from the perspective of a draft dodger who decided to judge and jury over the authority of the Military Courts.

The oath of enlistment:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Why is the orders of the president put before the officers? Is it because the president is the commander and chief, of the armed forces? What law did he break Shuny? Be specific.

[JimL]

The oath of enlistment:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Why is the orders of the president put before the officers? Is it because the president is the commander and chief, of the armed forces? What law did he break Shuny? Be specific.

Reading comprehension, lilpix, reading comprehension. Shunya never said that Trump broke the law in this instance.

[Cow Poke]

Orange man just happens to be bad, the fact that he's orange with a bad hair cut is just funny.

None of which, of course, is impeachable.

[JimL]

None of which, of course, is impeachable.

Encompassed within the "he just happens to be bad" is his impeachable offenses.

[Cow Poke]

Encompassed within the "he just happens to be bad" is his impeachable offenses.

If, of course, one absolutely totally ignores the examples given in the Constitution that justify impeachment.

[lilpixieofterror]

Reading comprehension, lilpix, reading comprehension. Shunya never said that Trump broke the law in this instance.

he is the judge and jury, on military matters and is perfectly within his powers to act the way he did.

[JimL]

If, of course, one absolutely totally ignores the examples given in the Constitution that justify impeachment.

No, it's all in there, and you'll have the constitutional scholars to explain it to you in the upcoming judicial hearings.

[Cow Poke]

No, it's all in there, and you'll have the constitutional scholars to explain it to you in the upcoming judicial hearings.

Which constitutional hearings, Jim?

[JimL]

he is the judge and jury, on military matters and is perfectly within his powers to act the way he did.

Again, the argument isn't about his powers, it's about his abuse of those powers whether they be illegal or not. The military has a court for a reason, they are responsible for the rule of order in their organization, and these men were obviously guilty of horrific crimes. Trump trumped the decision of that court for political reasons and signaled to the enlisted that they are free to ignore military rule.

[Cow Poke]

Again, the argument isn't about his powers, it's about his abuse of those powers whether they be illegal or not. The military has a court for a reason, they are responsible for the rule of order in their organization, and these men were obviously guilty of horrific crimes. Trump trumped the decision of that court for political reasons and signaled to the enlisted that they are free to ignore military rule.

There's a WHOLE LOT of assumin' goin' on there, Jim.

[JimL]

Which constitutional hearings, Jim?

The judiciary hearings beginning Dec. 4th, CP. Trump (along his atty's) have been invited to come in and defend himself. Do you think he'll show up?

[Cow Poke]

The judiciary hearings beginning Dec. 4th, CP. Trump (along his atty's) have been invited to come in and defend himself. Do you think he'll show up?

Oh, you mean the House Judiciary Committee hearings!!! No, Jim, don't be confused by the terminology -- these are just more impeachment hearings held before the Judiciary Committee, led by Nadler, yet another political hack.