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Originally posted by JimL View PostI see you're talking to your mirror image again, eh, Lilpix. This is really interesting watching how you otherwise fairly intelligent people can make yourselves deaf, dumb, and blind in order to protect your beliefs from the incoming facts. Profiles in courage you are not!"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI did, on and off.
So, how bout dialing the snark down just and tad and enlighten me. What was the most jaw-dropping bombshell of the day?A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostTo be honest, I was not thrilled with exactly how the impeachment hearings are being handled. That said, it's extremely concerning that Taylor, Sondland, and Yvanovitch are speaking about a very similar event with very similar testimony and being accused of hating America, the president or in some kind of conspiracy theory web. I think that the Republicans are doing a good enough job of looking like jack asses by accusing faithful public servants of being traitors of some kind; the Democrats should just let them sink their own ship. That said the very far left is fueling the flames of a dumpster fire in it's own way by being a little too adamant."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostTo be honest, I was not thrilled with exactly how the impeachment hearings are being handled. That said, it's extremely concerning that Taylor, Sondland, and Yvanovitch are speaking about a very similar event with very similar testimony and being accused of hating America, the president or in some kind of conspiracy theory web. I think that the Republicans are doing a good enough job of looking like jack asses by accusing faithful public servants of being traitors of some kind; the Democrats should just let them sink their own ship. That said the very far left is fueling the flames of a dumpster fire in it's own way by being a little too adamant.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've not heard anything about accusing them of hating America -- if somebody said that, it's nuts. This is political theater from both sides. Impeachment is, after all, a political animal, and this one is anything but bipartisan. 100% of the Republicans were against it, joined by 2 Democrats.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI'm not sure that 100 percent of Republicans are ACTUALLY against impeachment. I tend to think that the votes might look a lot different if someone was able to go against the party ideas without being threatened into oblivion. A good example of a Republican senator whose pretty well hated is Mitt Romney. Basically he's had many many accusations thrown at him and frankly it's horrible. The only real reason I can see for him being hated so much by the Republican Party is that he doesn't like Donald Trump.
Yet, here we are.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI'm not sure that 100 percent of Republicans are ACTUALLY against impeachment. I tend to think that the votes might look a lot different if someone was able to go against the party ideas without being threatened into oblivion. A good example of a Republican senator whose pretty well hated is Mitt Romney. Basically he's had many many accusations thrown at him and frankly it's horrible. The only real reason I can see for him being hated so much by the Republican Party is that he doesn't like Donald Trump.
Then he gets snarky with the guy who showed some backbone - of course that doesn't go well."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI'm not sure that 100 percent of Republicans are ACTUALLY against impeachment. I tend to think that the votes might look a lot different if someone was able to go against the party ideas without being threatened into oblivion. A good example of a Republican senator whose pretty well hated is Mitt Romney. Basically he's had many many accusations thrown at him and frankly it's horrible. The only real reason I can see for him being hated so much by the Republican Party is that he doesn't like Donald Trump.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOver the weekend on one of the cable news networks (Bloomberg IIRC), they had a couple Democrat pollster/advisors on and they were bemoaning how the party allowed Schiff to head the investigation saying that he has already doomed any chance of removing Trump through his actions. They claimed that several Republicans (primarily those who are retiring and don't like Trump) would have joined the Democrats in calling for an impeachment inquiry if it weren't for his bumbling ham-fisted antics.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostA happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI do agree that this process has become extremely partisan. And I understand the Republicans hold to "no quid pro quo." But at what point can someone say "investigate my opponent" Then withhold military aid.....Then when there was an agreement, give the military aid...Without it being not connected and not quid pro quo. It's just too difficult not to believe Trump wasn't trying to get something."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Jim, you seem to have a habit of making statements like this, then running away from them....
Originally posted by JimL View PostThe entire story that the Abassador laid out before you, CP.
Or, maybe you're getting your version from the same source that told you the javelin missiles were 1,000 miles from the battlefield?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, you seem to have a habit of making statements like this, then running away from them....
So, again I ask.... surely, you can summarize it for me, yes? In one sentence, what was the bombshell for which Trump should be impeached and removed from office?
Or, maybe you're getting your version from the same source that told you the javelin missiles were 1,000 miles from the battlefield?Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI do agree that this process has become extremely partisan. And I understand the Republicans hold to "no quid pro quo." But at what point can someone say "investigate my opponent" Then withhold military aid.....Then when there was an agreement, give the military aid...Without it being not connected and not quid pro quo. It's just too difficult not to believe Trump wasn't trying to get something.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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