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So, Schiff could be outright lying about not knowing the alleged whistle blower's identity.... and he almost CERTAINLY is....
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostReally simple yes or no question - do you honestly believe that Schiff does not know who the alleged whistle blower is?
Originally posted by Tassman View PostDoes it matter given that the whistle-blower's complaints have been corroborated by numerous people. Besides he/she is protected by the Whistleblower Protection Act.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostDoesn't matter. But it is unlikely he does not know....Originally posted by JimL View PostCouldn't care less if he does or not, since it has nothing to do with the evidence uncovered.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf he knows, and he's ADAMantly declaring he doesn't, then he's lying - but that's probably OK, too, since he's your guy. So that doesn't surprise me at all.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDoesn't matter? SERIOUSLY???? Jim, you KNOW that he knows. There's no way he can NOT know. He is flat out lying about this, and everybody knows it.
But it "doesn't matter"?
I guess that's OK, though - he hates Trump.
My dismissal of the issue has nothing to do with 'he hates trump'. It has to do with my agreement with the idea that the whistle blower needs to be protected against GOP and POTUS reprisal, and he is right not to reveal his identity if he knows it (as in knows officially as opposed to just having seen what the rumor is). If I was him I would not lie about knowing who it is (assuming he is lying) but IMHO he would not be wrong if he did.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSo you would smear me?
Edit: Ah, well, it looks like you quickly edited your post in the time it took me to respond, so apparently even you recognize that you were starting to go little over the top.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, Schiff could be outright lying about not knowing the alleged whistle blower's identity.... and he almost CERTAINLY is....
But it gets handwaved away because he's vigorously prosecuting Trump...
I guess it's only bad when Republicans lie?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou are assuming he is lying,
because that's what you've been told. You have no clue,
and it gets hand waved away because it's irrelevant.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhat is it with you and this sudden obsession with accusing people of engaging in a "smear"?
Edit: Ah, well, it looks like you quickly edited your post in the time it took me to respond, so apparently even you recognize that you were starting to go little over the top.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI guess you would tell the cartel you knew where the fellow they were trying to kill was hiding? And you would accuse someone that lied about it of being a liar and equal to the lies of the cartel members seeking to kill the fellow?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, the fact is that it doesn't matter and he has a responsibility by law to protect the whistleblower.
You need to stop swallowing the irrelevant stuff your favorite propagandists are feeding you.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostYou are assuming [Schiff] is lying...
Republicans: "Who did you talk to about the phone call?"
Vindman: "I spoke with two people: Kent, and someone in the CIA named-"
Schiff: "Don't say the whistle blower's name!"
Which begs he question: How did Schiff know who's name Vindman was about to reveal?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAnd you take vigorous exception to me 'divining' your moods and motives, yet look at your last statement ...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe narrative that hoax blower Eric Ciaramella needs to be protected from conservatives is rather ironic when you consider that it's liberals in general who tend to be intolerant and violent.
https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/scienc...chotic-traits/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...y-think-215114
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opini...718-story.html
https://www.redstate.com/diary/nikit...heres-23-ways/
This ...
https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/scienc...chotic-traits/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...y-think-215114
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opini...718-story.html
https://www.redstate.com/diary/nikit...heres-23-ways/
... is arguing by weblink.
And they're not good links.
NYPost:
Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic
The story doesn't back up the headline, doesn't link to the paper or any of its citations, and doesn't link to the correction, a perfect storm of reasons not to get your science from Murdoch tabloids.
And when the links are at least kinda good, they're not supportive.
Politico:
Contradicting the thesis it's liberals we should watch out for, not conservatives, so I can't even say why you cited it, unless, well, who knows, maybe you didn't read your own links.
The Trib op/ed:
Albert Eisenberg is the former communications director for the Philadelphia Republican Party.DIARY / NIKITAS3 // Posted at 7:17 am on January 11, 2011 by Nikitas3
And this one is a listicle. By an anonymous author. Who can't write. #15 is going to make your blood boil!
Meanwhile ...
All of the extremist killings in the US in 2018 had links to right-wing extremism, according to new report
By John Haltiwanger
Aug 5, 2019, 11:27 AM
The Anti-Defamation League's findings are consistent with other recent research on right-wing extremism in the US, which shows it's on the rise.
"The number of terrorist attacks by far-right perpetrators rose over the past decade, more than quadrupling between 2016 and 2017," the Center for Strategic and International Studies said in a November 2018 report. "The recent pipe bombs and the October 27, 2018, synagogue attack in Pittsburgh are symptomatic of this trend."
Correspondingly, a November 2018 analysis from The Washington Post on global terrorism data showed that far-right violence has been on the rise since President Donald Trump entered the White House.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostThe best way to defeat the narrative that the whistleblower needs protection would be to stop attacking him...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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