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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd I'm certain that tactic did not begin and end with Obamacare.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I would apply my words evenly pix. But they can't be extended generally and without prejudice to large groups of people like you are doing here. They would need to be applied on a case by case basis to individuals that demonstrate the same sorts of low integrity behavior as the examples I gave relating to Donald Trump.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI would apply my words evenly pix. But they can't be extended generally and without prejudice to large groups of people like you are doing here. They would need to be applied on a case by case basis to individuals that demonstrate the same sorts of low integrity behavior as the examples I gave relating to Donald Trump."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Why wouldn't I? Of course I would.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think it's worth noting at this point that Obamacare architect John Gruber infamously said that the Democrat party depends on the stupidity of its voters to move their agenda forward.
We know you lot are losing when the argument reverts to Obama/Hillary.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
We know you lot are losing when the argument reverts to Obama/Hillary.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhy wouldn't I? Of course I would."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThe very groups and people that were doing all the stuff I mentioned, are the ones telling you Trump is guilty of all these crimes.
1) His actions are his own
2) they are not mitigated by the fact others may have committed similar acts
3) the actions of individual members of large organizations like the MSM cannot be extended w/o prejudice to all such members, or even most such members.
Further, what I'm reacting to is not their interpretations of the facts, but the facts themselves. I'm observing the facts, and observing the reactions of the various news organizations and politicians to them. And while I would not claim any specific news outlet is 'completely unbiased' in their reporting, the fundamental issues are being reported most consistently in line with the facts as we have them by what you like to call 'the Main Stream Media', and the most irrational spin is being put on them by certain republicans and certain conservative news outlets - like brietbart.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostFurther, what I'm reacting to is not their interpretations of the facts, but the facts themselves.
You've fallen for so much spin, and then add your own, that I don't think you know if you're coming or going.
By the way, have you heard the latest? Ukraine's foreign minister said that Sondland never told him or anybody else in the Ukrainian government that the release of US military aid was dependent on Ukraine investigating Quid Pro Joe.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-never-linked/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You've fallen for so much spin, and then add your own, that I don't think you know if you're coming or going.
By the way, have you heard the latest? Ukraine's foreign minister said that Sondland never told him or anybody else in the Ukrainian government that the release of US military aid was dependent on Ukraine investigating Quid Pro Joe.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-never-linked/
It is interesting prystaiko would make the effort to say that, AND that he would publicly announce there are 'independent' investigations that include Burisma - the long hoped for request of Trump/Giuliani et al, AND emphasize Ukraine does NOT want to be embroiled in US domestic politics. Talk about covering all the bases!
However, it's a big deal he would do that - there is no denying that.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOh, right, I forgot about your "The Ukrainian government is so scared of Trump that they're willing to lie for him" nuttery.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOh, right, I forgot about your "The Ukrainian government is so scared of Trump that they're willing to lie for him" nuttery.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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