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I have no confidence any of them will honor their oaths in this regard.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhich kind of supports their claim that Trump was doing the investigation for personal reasons.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou could infer it, I suppose, but there are many other reasons a president chooses to use unofficial channels. For instance, Ukraine had tried to contact the US concerning Joe Biden on several occasions, but they were repeatedly stonewalled in the official channels by Obama holdovers. It wasn't until Guilani got involved that they started making forward progress.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou could infer it, I suppose, but there are many other reasons a president chooses to use unofficial channels. For instance, Ukraine had tried to contact the US concerning Joe Biden on several occasions, but they were repeatedly stonewalled in the official channels by Obama holdovers. It wasn't until Guilani got involved that they started making forward progress.
You don't have to infer what is explicitly stated.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostIt's not an inference. Giuliani's letter clearly states that he is acting as a representative for Trump "as a private citizen, not as President of the United States." In his "capacity as personal counsel to President Trump and with his knowledge and consent", Giuliani requests the meeting with Zelensky.
You don't have to infer what is explicitly stated.
--SamSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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So? That doesn't grant him any special powers to "do" anything. He will mainly serve as referee, and will be constrained by whatever rules the Senate puts in place. The Senate will determine which witnesses, if any, will be called. As a member of SCOTUS, somewhat separate from his role presiding over the trial, he may be involved in evaluating claims of Executive Privilege.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI have no confidence any of them will honor their oaths in this regard.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThere may be a few who do, but that could be for political reasons. Problem is that the leadership, Moscow Mitch, is dishonoring his oath of impartiality right from the get go by rigging the trial set-up to favor the defense. Unfortunately it's going to take a few principled republicans to actually honor their oaths to up-end the intended set-up. Not sure if we'll get that or not.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWe can hope enough of them still have a conscience. But the lack of conscience seen here daily makes it hard to hold onto that hope.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostSo we're back to this again. Other than Trump confessing "Yes I did criming" you won't accept anything.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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