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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI get that you're reduced to aping MM here, but starting out with an erroneous statement makes the rest of your post irrelevant.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
It is truly sad that the political polarization of our nation has reached the point one side will actually support actions that aid our enemy - Russia - and endanger another nations people at the hands of Russian aggression. I believe history will judge this day and the people trying to pretend these acts are questionable or excusable very, very harshly. I would not be surprised to see classes taught 15, 25 or more years from now on how group think can undermine basic moral principles in very large groups of otherwise moral people that will include Trump and Trump supporters as prime examples, with class members asking their professors how such a people could be so completely misled and confused as to the dangers of such behavior and their obligations to oppose it.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt looks like that's what they've settled on, two vague and amorphous terms that don't describe any actual crimes. In fact, Democrats are claiming that "abuse of power" and "obstruction of Congress" can refer to perfectly legal acts that are done with the "wrong" motives.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...f-impeachment/
This thing is turning into a bigger farce than I think anybody could have predicted.
A very, very sad day indeed.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat is truly sad here MM is that there are so many so tied to their partisan tribe they cannot see the gravity of a president coercing a foreign nation into acting in a way that potentially could interfere with the next election, and not only to do that, to do that by a means which endangers US national security.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostA very sad day when otherwise moral people can argue for the excusing and acceptance of abuse of power on a national scale by the President of the United States.
A very, very sad day indeed.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIt is not irrelevant. MM is the most vocal supporter of Trump in this forum. "That you love Trump" might be overstatement (just as 'you hate Trump' cast my way is over statement), however, it is consistent with the sort of hyperbole MM mixes into his own posts.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostApparently it's official:
Note the conspicuous absence of any specific criminal charges against the President.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/de...mpeachment.pdf
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBecause imprecise language and equivocation is exactly what you want to hear when considering the very serious matter of impeaching a US president.
Look, I get that you guys hate Trump, but even you have to acknowledge that the Democrats are playing fast and loose here.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou said they were no longer using quid pro quo, that it didn't work so they changed the terms. You lied. It was a scheme involving a quid pro quo, military aid for an investigation into his political rival, or actually just a public announcement of an investigation.
But anyway, the Articles of Impeachment have been publicly released, and neither "quid pro quo" nor "bribery" are ever referenced, but the legally ambiguous term "scheme" is used multiple times.Last edited by Mountain Man; 12-10-2019, 10:57 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe failure to reference a single law or US code that Trump is supposed to have violated is a glaring omission.
This is just for show. They know it can't pass the Senate without any evidence.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey know it can't pass the Senate without any evidence.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's not that anything is being excused, it's that the charge of "abuse of power" does not explicitly describe anything to be excused! What crime is Trump actually being accused of? Even the Democrats are hedging their bets with the argument that a president can be impeached for lawful acts done with the "wrong" motives. Surely even you can see what a travesty of justice that is. Remember, if they can get away with doing it to the President of the United States, then what's to stop them from doing it to you?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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