Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[lilpixieofterror]

So you are in favor of Bolton testifying before the Senate or, if it subpoenas him, the House?

--Sam

Like I said Sam,

Sure and what will you do when this ends in bitter disappointment?

[Sam]

Like I said Sam,

Sure and what will you do when this ends in bitter disappointment?

Good to have on record.

I don't expect Bolton's testimony to be nearly as important as Mulvaney's. If he were to testify (I am 90% certain he will not in the Senate and 75% certain he won't honor a subpoena from the House), I expect that he would try to hew close to what he discussed with Pompeo and Mulvaney, trying to pull them into the fray without losing his favorable reputation in the right (has a PAC and book deals to think about).

But so long as he's truthful and provides factual answers, I won't be disappointed by his testimony.

--Sam

[seanD]

Like I said Sam,

Sure and what will you do when this ends in bitter disappointment?

I think the difference is what MM pointed out. Why would he not testify before Congress, where it's more hostile against Trump, but choose to wait and testify before the Senate, a political body that will be much harder to sway a decision against Trump?

[Tassman]

...is so weak that Pelosi can't even transmit it to the Senate.

Not at all. Pelosi is delaying transmitting the impeachment articles to the Senate because the Senate leaders have publicly stated that they intend to run a crooked trial.

[Sam]

I think the difference is what MM pointed out. Why would he not testify before Congress, where it's more hostile against Trump, but choose to wait and testify before the Senate, a political body that will be much harder to sway a decision against Trump?

The venue of the testimony would not matter, as members are given equal time. Senate Democrats will not be pressing harder than their House colleagues and Senate Republicans will not be dissembling less than theirs.

--Sam

[Watermelon]

It still leaves the question of why he was unwilling to testify before the House.

Based on his statement he was waiting for the Kupperman case results to tell him whether to testify or not. Since the case became moot, Bolton hit the books to determine the correct option and came to a conclusion that he would testify if subpoenaed.

[rogue06]

The venue of the testimony would not matter, as members are given equal time. Senate Democrats will not be pressing harder than their House colleagues and Senate Republicans will not be dissembling less than theirs.

--Sam

For one thing in the Senate you are far less likely to have someone in charge shutting down questioning that made him feel uncomfortable or even coaching witnesses by telling them what they meant (you ask for clarification not provide the clarification you want).

[seanD]

The venue of the testimony would not matter, as members are given equal time. Senate Democrats will not be pressing harder than their House colleagues and Senate Republicans will not be dissembling less than theirs.

--Sam

Oh please

If he has damning evidence against Trump, his aim would presumably be to sway senate Republicans.

[firstfloor]

Well, who is the "we" you were speaking of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

No mouse, just a self elected spokesman for the citizens of the United States of America. I hope you do not think me unreasonable.

[JimL]

Oh please

If he has damning evidence against Trump, his aim would presumably be to sway senate Republicans.

The reason for Boltons change of mind is the recent dismissal of his deputy, Mr. Kuppermans lawsuit, which leaves Bolton no legitimate reason for not testifying.

[seanD]

The reason for Boltons change of mind is the recent dismissal of his deputy, Mr. Kuppermans lawsuit, which leaves Bolton no legitimate reason for not testifying.

If that's the case, why couldn't he have volunteered to testify to the House when they dismissed Kupperman's subpoena? There is no assurance that the senate will even subpoena him for trial.

[JimL]

If that's the case, why couldn't he have volunteered to testify to the House when they dismissed Kupperman's subpoena? There is no assurance that the senate will even subpoena him for trial.

Because Kuppermans suit was just dismissed yesterday.

[seanD]

Because Kuppermans suit was just dismissed yesterday.

No, it wasn't.

[JimL]

No, it wasn't.

Yes it was.


http://www.politico.com/news/2019/12...dismiss-091407

[seanD]

Yes it was.


http://www.politico.com/news/2019/12...dismiss-091407

Jim, your own article says it was dismissed last month, not yesterday.

Pelosi has the impeachment in limbo, remember? Perhaps you could make the argument Bolton didn't know whether he could still testify before the House because of this. I'm actually unclear of this myself.