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Last edited by JimL; 01-03-2020, 04:28 PM.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThere are always outlier polls. The fact is that the combined average of the major polls (like what RCP does) has shown support for impeachment drop and more folks now opposing it than supporting it.
I seriously doubt that was the result that the Democrats expected.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI am not at all sure folks on the left are listening to themselves anymore and fairly sure that their lack of sanity requires that they not be listening to themselves.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostActually, polling has remained fairly consistent.
But this is irrelevant to the Senate leaders publicly abrogating their duty to run a fair, impartial trial of the impeached president as the Constitution demands.
Neither did I. The House has absolute authority over the first part of the impeachment process, and the Senate has absolute authority over their part.
The Democrats weaponized impeachment, and the Senate is saying "oh, no you don't!"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, that's what I said --- in spite of the Democrats supposedly putting on a smoking-gun case, and the media hammering this 24-7, it hasn't moved the needle much at all. Great job, partisan Democrats.
Tassy ---- the incredibly partisan Democrats ran their portion of this in the House without the Senate interfering. You didn't complain about them not consulting the Senate, did you?
Neither did I. The House has absolute authority over the first part of the impeachment process , and the Senate has absolute authority over their part.
The Democrats weaponized impeachment, and the Senate is saying "oh, no you don't!"Last edited by JimL; 01-04-2020, 10:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, that's what I said --- in spite of the Democrats supposedly putting on a smoking-gun case, and the media hammering this 24-7, it hasn't moved the needle much at all. Great job, partisan Democrats."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, that's what I said --- in spite of the Democrats supposedly putting on a smoking-gun case, and the media hammering this 24-7, it hasn't moved the needle much at all. Great job, partisan Democrats.
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(I assume that's your preferred site).
And a lot of those polls are quite old and surely only went up over the course of the impeachment inquiry. In fact, according to the second graph on 538 support for removal is currently just a hair below 50% and support for impeachment exceeds 50%. (In that second graph there are some buttons at the bottom to choose whether to include all polls, only those asking about support for impeachment, or only those asking for impeach and remove).
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostMoved the needle more than 10 points, from available polling.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, that's impeachment. NEWS FLASH: That's already been done.
So, we should take DRASTIC action because less than half the people in the country think so? Even Pelosi set the bar at "overwhelming" support.
And having said that, if public sentiments really are against the President then why not let the voters decide in November?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostPublic support is a red herring. It doesn't matter if 100% of voters want Trump impeached, if there is no legal case against him then it would be proper to acquit.
A) That's now how our government works
2) They are shooting themselves in the feet
And having said that, if public sentiments really are against the President then why not let the voters decide in November?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIn your cherry picked poll?
As of now, you're just falsely restating something despite being shown the evidence that it's false.
Ain't no honor or dignity in that.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
So, we should take DRASTIC action because less than half the people in the country think so? Even Pelosi set the bar at "overwhelming" support.
BTW, in case you missed it, yesterday in court Democrat lawyers argued that additional articles of impeachment might be added based on the outcome of those legal cases which are currently in flight. Right on schedule ;).
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostNo. If support for removal doesn't significantly increase by the end of the trial then I'm not sure that removal would be the right course of action (and would certainly never happen besides). The case has to be overwhelming and ironclad. Pelosi knows that too.
BTW, in case you missed it, yesterday in court Democrat lawyers argued that additional articles of impeachment might be added based on the outcome of those legal cases which are currently in flight. Right on schedule ;).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostAs I keep saying, find any contravening poll in the pre-September timeframe and we can talk about cherry-picking.
As of now, you're just falsely restating something despite being shown the evidence that it's false.
Ain't no honor or dignity in that.
--Sam
FACTS ARE ----
A) Trump has been impeached, and America pretty much yawned...
2) There's about a ZERO % chance the Senate will remove
C) Trump's fundraising is through the roof.
Anything else over which you'd like to squabble?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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