Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[JimL]

3 years of endless investigations later and no evidence of any crimes taking place, but nope, the democrats are not out to get Trump at all. You’re doing a great job of pushing Trump to win in 2020. Last month, one of my friends decided to vote for the first time of her life in 2020 because of Democrat tantrums. Trump should simply not bother to hire anyone to run his campaign, he simply needs to let people like you talk.

Well, lets just hope there are not too many naive, misinformed, people like you out there, Lilpix. No evidence indeed. All you need to conclude that there was no evidence of any crimes is for some one to tell you that there was no evidence of any crimes. Your head would probably explode at this point if you weren't told what to believe, Lilpix. No evidence, oh my word!

[Cow Poke]

What politics is Justin Amash -- former Freedom Caucus member and hardline fiscal conservative -- playing?

--Sam

Why are you so hyperfocused on one man, Sam? He's been a critic of Trump for quite a while.

[Sam]

Why are you so hyperfocused on one man, Sam? He's been a critic of Trump for quite a while.

Is he partisan in his criticism?

[Cow Poke]

Is he partisan in his criticism?

I don't know, and don't really care - again, he's one man.

What's amazing to me is how you guys think you're actually accomplishing anything by beating this dead horse over and over and over.....

The House impeached on an incredibly partisan vote, and the Senate will not convict/remove on an incredibly partisan vote.

[Sam]

I don't know, and don't really care - again, he's one man.

What's amazing to me is how you guys think you're actually accomplishing anything by beating this dead horse over and over and over.....

The House impeached on an incredibly partisan vote, and the Senate will not convict/remove on an incredibly partisan vote.

Well, your criticism before was that Pelosi wanted bipartisan support for impeachment proceedings and you've been constantly implying that it wasn't.

Truth is that it was. Justin Amash is a conservative -- he was a Freedom Caucus founding member! And Amash pulls down the curtain on your whole deflection here: Amash, despite being a Republican, has consistently focused on the facts discovered about Trump's effort to pressure Ukraine for his political ends and has supported impeachment.

You, too, could choose to address the facts instead of making this into some tribal battle of wills. Like Amash there and Jim here, you'd likely find yourself in a lonely corner with people who once mostly agreed with you hounding you with spurious accusations of derangement.

But it'd be worth it: as Josh Barro said from the start of all this, Trump is in a position where he could take everything away from you ... except your dignity.

That has to be offered up to him.

--Sam

[Tassman]

The House impeached on an incredibly partisan vote, and the Senate will not convict/remove on an incredibly partisan vote.

It may have been partisan but it was nevertheless supported by abundant evidence. The House had 17 credible witnesses testifying that Trump attempted to abuse his power by enlisting a foreign government to interfere in the next election. The House also found that Trump demonstrably obstructed Congress in its investigation of this abuse.

Conversely, The Senate leader has publicly stated that a Senate trial will be partisan to the extent of NOT allowing ANY evidence from ANY witnesses. McConnell has said he will move to acquit Trump without ANY hearings at all.

And you seem to think this is reasonable.

[rogue06]

I don't know, and don't really care - again, he's one man.

What's amazing to me is how you guys think you're actually accomplishing anything by beating this dead horse over and over and over.....

The House impeached on an incredibly partisan vote, and the Senate will not convict/remove on an incredibly partisan vote.

They have. They have dramatically increased the odds that he'll be re-elected thanks to them.

[rogue06]

It may have been partisan but it was nevertheless supported by abundant evidence. The House had 17 credible witnesses testifying that Trump attempted to abuse his power by enlisting a foreign government to interfere in the next election. The House also found that Trump demonstrably obstructed Congress in its investigation of this abuse.

Conversely, The Senate leader has publicly stated that a Senate trial will be partisan to the extent of NOT allowing ANY evidence from ANY witnesses. McConnell has said he will move to acquit Trump without ANY hearings at all.

And you seem to think this is reasonable.

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[rogue06]

What politics is Justin Amash -- former Freedom Caucus member and hardline fiscal conservative -- playing?

--Sam

Who cares about Amash? He used to be a Republican at one time but isn't now.

It is like noting that Trump used to be a Democrat so we can say it was a Democrat who was impeached by his fellow Democrats.

[Tassman]

"Credible" he says

Yes, "credible:

1. capable of being believed; believable".

2. a credible statement. worthy of belief or confidence; trustworthy: a credible witness.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/credible

[MaxVel]

Yes, "credible:

1. capable of being believed; believable".

2. a credible statement. worthy of belief or confidence; trustworthy: a credible witness.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/credible

Also (From the Dictionary of Tassman)

Credible:

3. agrees with one of Tassman's pet hobby-horses

4. displays a bigoted anti-Christian attitude

[lilpixieofterror]

Regarding just Trump and not the half-score of Trump associates/employees who plead to or were convicted of crimes:

The House impeachment uncovered numerous potential federal crimes

Trump was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's criminal campaign finance crimes by SDNY

The Roger Stone trial clearly suggested that Trump committed perjury in his take-home written answers to the Special Counsel

[lilpixieofterror]

Well, lets just hope there are not too many naive, misinformed, people like you out there, Lilpix. No evidence indeed. All you need to conclude that there was no evidence of any crimes is for some one to tell you that there was no evidence of any crimes. Your head would probably explode at this point if you weren't told what to believe, Lilpix. No evidence, oh my word!

[Cow Poke]

They have. They have dramatically increased the odds that he'll be re-elected thanks to them.

That's about it --- they have solidified his support. I have never seen the Republican so united. That's always been one of my biggest gripes with them, is that the Democrats can circle the wagons and provide a united front, while the Republicans tend to eat their own.

This time, however, fundraising is through the roof, Republicans are united like never before, and Trump is on a victory lap.

[oxmixmudd]

That's about it --- they have solidified his support. I have never seen the Republican so united. That's always been one of my biggest gripes with them, is that the Democrats can circle the wagons and provide a united front, while the Republicans tend to eat their own.

This time, however, fundraising is through the roof, Republicans are united like never before, and Trump is on a victory lap.

I am trying to reconcile your comments of late with your claim not to be a Trump supporter.

I cant.

You must be using a definition of 'supporting Trump' that would be more closely related to the idea of aTrump worshipper.

And I would agree I see no evidence you worship Trump.