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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostTrump has no limits to his bad behaviour, and his base enjoy his combativeness, and they root for him no matter who he attacks; but this is very far removed from what we ought to expect from someone holding this great office. The USA is in a deep hole and it is still digging. The solution is not in the direction of more Trump.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, it's actually not - it actually has a legal definition that involves lying under oath.
Trump was not charged with "OOJ".
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Obstruction of congress!
Are high crimes actual crimes?
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostHow does having a legal definition invalidate their relationship?
Obstruction of congress!
Are high crimes actual crimes?
And, yes, per the Constitution, high crimes refers to actual crimes. The two examples given are treason and bribery.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostTrump has no limits to his bad behaviour,
and his base enjoy his combativeness,
and they root for him no matter who he attacks;
but this is very far removed from what we ought to expect from someone holding this great office.
The USA is in a deep hole and it is still digging.
The solution is not in the direction of more Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostHow does having a legal definition invalidate their relationship?
Obstruction of congress!
2 - it wasn't obstruction of congress - it was obstruction of one very partisan faction of One committee of ONE half of Congress, which is ONE THIRD of the branches of government.
Are high crimes actual crimes?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThere's no such thing as "obstruction of Congress". It's a charge the Democrats pulled out of the nearest bodily orifice.
And, yes, per the Constitution, high crimes refers to actual crimes. The two examples given are treason and bribery.
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
...the phrase "or other" would indicate SIMILAR offenses, not just anything a focus group invents.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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And, remember --- this was not the FIRST impeachment sham aimed at Trump.
Formal efforts were initiated by representatives Al Green and Brad Sherman, both Democrats, in 2017, the first year of his presidency!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Here's a shot of Nancy giving that "Don't you DARE cheer" glance to her subjects when she announced the passing of Article I...
nancy judge judy.jpg
She reminds me a lot of Judge Judy scolding a disorderly plaintiff/defendant.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, the actual wording is...
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
...the phrase "or other" would indicate SIMILAR offenses, not just anything a focus group invents.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIn a fair trial the accussed doesn't get to block the testimony of witnesses and other evidence against them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostHmmm... it looks like the Democrats have more dirty tricks up their sleeves...
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post..... and the last word means what?
In lower courts, they are crimes less serious than felonies, punishable by local courts, but crimes nonetheless. In government, they are considered more serious with regards to POTUS, because they would have been committed at a federal level by a federal employee.
n. a lesser crime punishable by a fine and/or county jail time for up to one year. Misdemeanors are distinguished from felonies which can be punished by a state prison term. They are tried in the lowest local court such as municipal, police or justice courts. Typical misdemeanors include: petty theft, disturbing the peace, simple assault and battery, drunk driving without injury to others, drunkenness in public, various traffic violations, public nuisances, and some crimes which can be charged either as a felony or misdemeanor depending on the circumstances and the discretion of the District Attorney. "High crimes and misdemeanors" referred to in the U. S. Constitution are felonies."
sourceThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Is it OOJ when the investigation itself is rigged? How is fighting against an injust investigation an obstruction of justice. It would be more of an obstruction of injustice.
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Also, can you please cite the law it says that the President is not allowed to seek a ruling by the Supreme Court, you know the actual JUSTICE branch of the US Government?Last edited by Sparko; 12-19-2019, 09:22 AM.
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