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House Speaker Pelosi to announce formal impeachment inquiry of Trump
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnother thing, a formal impeachment panel would be required to seat members of the minority party. By refusing to convene such a panel, Pelosi can keep it entirely in the hands of Democrats.
And sending out legally questionable "demand letters" but calling them subpoenas, which the White House is justifiably challenging in court, gives Democrats the opportunity to spread the canard that Trump is refusing to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry, even though there isn't one if we're following the Constitution.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostGood, the longer the investigation stays out of the hands of the corrupt republican party, the better.
Trump and his team of criminals have been obstructing every facet of the investigation from day one. Innocent people don't need to cover-up or obstruct. Yes, I know all about the excuses you make yourself believe for Trumps obstruction, but I also know that only naive idiots or unethical supporters would buy into those excuses."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostLike I said, Tea, you're blind to it, your biased mind just can't accept it. You people don't see and then define, you define and then see!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostLike I said, Tea, you're blind to it, your biased mind just can't accept it. You people don't see and then define, you define and then see!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThis coming from someone who, even after the Mueller Report (which you had been hanging your hat on), terminally rebutted the collusion delusion and yet you still insist that Trump colluded with Putin
"No contact with Russians!" (2016/early 2017)
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"No collusion with Russians!" (2017/2018)
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several felony convictions and pleas stemming from contact with Russians and Russian cut-outs
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"Really what we mean by 'collusion' is the explicit and narrow form of coordination outlined in the Mueller report, which seems to have missed some key exchanges and details numerous obstructive acts that impeded the investigation!" (2019)
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostStill a really bad button to try and push.
"No contact with Russians!" (2016/early 2017)
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"No collusion with Russians!" (2017/2018)
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several felony convictions and pleas stemming from contact with Russians and Russian cut-outs
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"Really what we mean by 'collusion' is the explicit and narrow form of coordination outlined in the Mueller report, which seems to have missed some key exchanges and details numerous obstructive acts that impeded the investigation!" (2019)
--Sam
This of course needs to be remembered whenever you sniff in disdain at this or that news source because they said something that contradicts your carefully crafted narrative. IOW, you reveal yourself to be a less than capable judge of such things.Last edited by rogue06; 10-07-2019, 03:12 PM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sam View PostStill a really bad button to try and push.
"No contact with Russians!" (2016/early 2017)
to
"No collusion with Russians!" (2017/2018)
to
several felony convictions and pleas stemming from contact with Russians and Russian cut-outs
to
"Really what we mean by 'collusion' is the explicit and narrow form of coordination outlined in the Mueller report, which seems to have missed some key exchanges and details numerous obstructive acts that impeded the investigation!" (2019)
--SamSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe collusion delusion lives!
This of course needs to be remembered whenever you sniff in disdain at this or that news source because they said something that contradicts your carefully crafted narrative. IOW, you reveal yourself to be a less than capable judge of such things.
Or if, you know, Donald Trump didn't have a secret business deal going on with Putin while his campaign/family members met with Russian "crown prosecutors", asked for Russia's help "finding" Clinton's emails, and routinely touted the Russian cut-out Wikileaks dumps even as he was reportedly directing Roger Stone to coordinate their release.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThis coming from someone who, even after the Mueller Report (which you had been hanging your hat on), terminally rebutted the collusion delusion and yet you still insist that Trump colluded with Putin
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Originally posted by Sam View PostThis would have more weight if you and others here, to say nothing of Trump and the right-leaning media over the past few years, hadn't changed your talking points exactly like I said or alleged that the Clinton campaign "colluded" with Ukraine by seeking information on Paul Manafort, using a clearly colloquial definition that absolutely applies to Trump.
Or if, you know, Donald Trump didn't have a secret business deal going on with Putin while his campaign/family members met with Russian "crown prosecutors", asked for Russia's help "finding" Clinton's emails, and routinely touted the Russian cut-out Wikileaks dumps even as he was reportedly directing Roger Stone to coordinate their release.
--Sam
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRight, like I said, you and the rest of the Trumpsters are blind to real evidence and instead of recognizing the facts as entailed in the Mueller report you hang your hat on Trumps corrupt Atty. Gen's false summary of the report. There are at least 10 occurrences of obstruction and you don't obstruct unless you have something to hide. We all know why Mueller didn't indict, but he also made it clear that the report did not exonerate the president and his administration. And btw, as far as I'm concerned, Paul Manafort exchanging internal polling and targeting data with the Russians, which is in the report, is, on its face, collusion.
That you are unwilling and/or incapable of accepting that fact is nobody's problem but your own yet eventually you'll just have to...
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThis would have more weight if you were a more discerning judge of news sources rather than one who clings to those which have led you to still be enthralled by the collusion delusion even after the Mueller Report dismantled it piecemeal.
And I'm absolutely sure that had you read the report with an objective mind toward truth, you would've been struck by how it explicitly sets out in the first page how "collusion" isn't a subject of the report at all but rather criminal coordination of a conspiracy.
But, true, none of these are Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, or whatever weird blog Rudy Giuliani is flashing in front of Fox News cameras tonight.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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