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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    And you use the personal opinion of a dead guy,
    Numeroushttp://media.sbhla.org.s3.amazonaws....1-Jan-1973.pdf

    In short, abortion was NOT initially a major issue for the religious right...that came later.

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    • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
      Numeroushttp://media.sbhla.org.s3.amazonaws....1-Jan-1973.pdf

      In short, abortion was NOT initially a major issue for the religious right...that came later.
      It became a major issue when SCOTUS created a new right out of thin air using really bad legal process and made Abortion on Demand "the law of the land".

      And, yeah, I remember your drama queen attempt to elevate Garrett to some incredibly important official spokesperson for the Southern Baptists even though he was just a bureau chief, like you falsely represented Criswell as the two term President of the Southern Baptist Convention "at the time of the ruling".

      If you actually have a point, why is it necessary for you to routinely and grossly misrepresent the positions of people from whom you cherry pick quotes?

      Wally's family thanks you for not misrepresenting him in this post.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        If the science of biology actually lent itself to anti-abortion viewpoints, wouldn't you expect the strongest anti-abortion advocates to be biologists? Instead what we seem to see is its US right-wing Christians who are anti-abortion, and the scientists in the world are perfectly fine with abortion in general.

        In my current job, most of the scientists I'm working with are biologists (it's not my own scientific background, so I'm learning lots from them). From comments I've heard them make at lunch when the conversation turns to random subjects, the majority of the biologists seem to find anti-abortion views somewhere between hilarious and idiotic. I've never heard any of them express support for anti-abortion views. I've certainly never heard of the idea that biological scientists as a whole thought their science lent anti-abortion views any sort of credence.
        It's kinda weird you seem to seriously and really believe that the science is on your side on this issue. I suspect is a case of extreme wishful thinking on your part. I think most biological scientists would fall over laughing if you seriously told them straight-faced that modern biological science proved the anti-abortion viewpoint.
        So they would laugh an an MD, with multiple degrees and a speciality in fetal development and medicine? How entertaining. Do any of them hold a speciality in fetal development?

        BTW how common are those conditions in the GP?
        Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-28-2019, 07:11 AM.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          They'd have to compete with former abortionists.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • abortion rights.jpg
            Nazis thought it was their right to kill Jews

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • Recent Poll Reveals 95 Percent of Biologists Say Human Life Begins at Conception


              Here's some of the insane "logic" of Blackmun...



              Yet, contrary to Blackmun's uninformed assumption...



              So the pro-abortion crowd has to switch the argument from "when life begins" to "that's not really human life" or "that's not a human being" or "it's not recognized as a human being until brain development" or anything else that supports their culture of death.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Having grown up myself in a church where abortion wasn't an issue, it still baffles me as to why evangelicals in the US are so focused on abortion. It's not as if it's even in the bible at all. Whereas at least on the topic of homosexuality they've got a tiny handful of biblical references that are often taken as referring to the subject. Their religious fanaticism for a completely non-biblical topic is really bizarre.
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  Recent Poll Reveals 95 Percent of Biologists Say Human Life Begins at Conception


                  Here's some of the insane "logic" of Blackmun...



                  Yet, contrary to Blackmun's uninformed assumption...



                  So the pro-abortion crowd has to switch the argument from "when life begins" to "that's not really human life" or "that's not a human being" or "it's not recognized as a human being until brain development" or anything else that supports their culture of death.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Ecology (ecologists) is a branch of biology.

                    Botany (botanists) is a branch of biology.

                    Without more specificity star's statement is in effect useless.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Ecology (ecologists) is a branch of biology.

                      Botany (botanists) is a branch of biology.

                      Without more specificity star's statement is in effect useless.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post


                        This is a (typical) CP misrepresentation.
                        And, again, you seem to be totally ignorant of the meaning of the word "typical".

                        FACT: You grossly overstated Crisswell's importance to the matter, and falsely stated he was President of the Southern Baptist Convention at the time of the ruling. NOT TRUE. That, Tass, is only one misrepresentation.

                        My argument is based upon the fact that until 50 years ago your church, now virulently anti-abortion, was largely indifferent to it.
                        Unfortunately, in your maniacal prosecution of the Southern Baptist Convention, you seem incapable of keeping the FACTS straight.

                        When I accuse you of misrepresentation, I back it up with proof. When you accuse me of misrepresentation, it's just typical Tassmanian dramaqueenery.

                        But, hey, that's all ya got.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Having grown up myself in a church where abortion wasn't an issue, it still baffles me as to why evangelicals in the US are so focused on abortion. It's not as if it's even in the bible at all. Whereas at least on the topic of homosexuality they've got a tiny handful of biblical references that are often taken as referring to the subject. Their religious fanaticism for a completely non-biblical topic is really bizarre.
                          Is there a verse that says "thou shalt not commit abortion"?

                          Is there biblical basis to show that God considers unborn children incredibly important?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Is there a verse that says "thou shalt not commit abortion"?

                            Is there biblical basis to show that God considers unborn children incredibly important?
                            Apparently many of the Southern Baptists interpret those verses in a different way.

                            Three in 10 Southern Baptists say abortion should be legal in most circumstances, according to a recent survey by the Pew Research Center.

                            Overall, 61% of white evangelical Protestants oppose abortion rights, which is actually down from 70% in 2017. To put that number in context, far more white evangelicals (76%) supported President Trump's ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/23/p...ama/index.html

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                            • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                              Apparently many of the Southern Baptists interpret those verses in a different way.
                              Many Southern Baptists don't like grits.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Many Southern Baptists don't like grits.
                                Don't they all eat grits and marry their sisters?
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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