Trump the Needler

[seanD]

I'm not one to believe the claims that Trump is always playing 4-d chess against it's opponents, because I honestly don't think he's that smart, too self-absorbed and narcissistic for that. But his latest tweet with the cat meme seems to be the proof of that, at least in this instance. What did this distract from? The billion dollars he allocated from the military to the border wall, which got buried with this dumb story.

[Sparko]

Look again. Find the word "lie."

Whoops. No need to apologize. You were lied to, and you believed it, and now you know better.

The word "lie" is still reserved for statements known to be untrue made with the intent to deceive.



That's the standard handwave. The folks telling you it has no credibility because it's partisan ... have no credibility because they're partisan, and a vested interest in defending their partisan lies.

[Sparko]

No, I'm claiming that NOAA's statement, the Rear Admiral's statement, etc. were essentially creating a false record to support Trump's false claim that AL was likely to be hit unexpectedly hard when he made the tweet.

If they had created actual false documentation to that effect, I wouldn't use the word "essentially" and I'd consider that a federal offense.

--Sam

yep that sounds paranoid.

[Juvenal]

I was talking about your statement, "compelled the relevant agencies to backtrack and essentially create a false record."

Public health and safety: 1
Stable sharpie: significantly less.

Left unsaid is the reason Trump wasn't in Poland, as originally planned. He cancelled the trip, sending Pence in his place, ostensibly to keep abreast of the impacts of Hurricane Dorian, but more likely it seems, to get in a couple more rounds of golf at one of his courses.

President Trump Seen at the Golf Course While Hurricane Dorian Approaches the U.S.

The President has no plans listed on his public schedule for Monday. He was originally set to spend this weekend in Poland commemorating the start of World War II. However, that trip was canceled as the threat posed by Hurricane Dorian became more clear.

Trump was also seen at the golf course on Saturday.

Video appears to show Trump golfing in Virginia in the run-up to catastrophic Hurricane Dorian

President Donald Trump appeared to be playing golf Saturday, just days before parts of the southeastern US were expected to be battered by the Category 5 Hurricane Dorian, which the National Hurricane Center has called catastrophic.

Official communications from the White House and statements from Trump ahead of the weekend trip had suggested Trump would be spending his time at Camp David in Maryland monitoring and preparing for the storm.

According to press pool reports, however, Trump traveled to his Sterling, Virginia, golf course Saturday morning by helicopter from Camp David. The White House press secretary, Stephanie Grisham, reportedly told reporters that someone from the Federal Emergency Management Agency was briefing Trump on the hurricane every hour.

[Juvenal]

If it weren't for his penchant for repetition, they'd never get a break.

[Juvenal]

That "database" is a joke. It lists stuff like opinions, obvious hyperbole, errors, etc as "lies"

Look again. Find the word "lie."

Whoops. No need to apologize. You were lied to, and you believed it, and now you know better.

The word "lie" is still reserved for statements known to be untrue made with the intent to deceive.

It has no credibility and is just leftist TDS propaganda.

That's the standard handwave. The folks telling you it has no credibility because it's partisan ... have no credibility because they're partisan, and a vested interest in defending their partisan lies.

[Sam]

I was talking about your statement, "compelled the relevant agencies to backtrack and essentially create a false record."

You are claiming that NOAA went back and created maps to match what Trump said?

No, I'm claiming that NOAA's statement, the Rear Admiral's statement, etc. were essentially creating a false record to support Trump's false claim that AL was likely to be hit unexpectedly hard when he made the tweet.

If they had created actual false documentation to that effect, I wouldn't use the word "essentially" and I'd consider that a federal offense.

--Sam

[Sparko]

No, just pointing out the irony of your accussation.

You missed.

[JimL]

I know you were trying to make a clever, sarcastic response, but you missed and just sounded stupider than usual.

No, just pointing out the irony of your accussation.

[Sparko]

That looks like a twebber going on and on for hundreds of pages rather than admitting they are wrong. Sort of a rightist TDS propaganda issue.

I know you were trying to make a clever, sarcastic response, but you missed and just sounded stupider than usual.

[Sparko]

How so? There was no map like the one Trump drew. There were different, earlier maps that had a larger cone which included AL but there was no map that had Trump's little "see i was right" bump.

--Sam

I was talking about your statement, "compelled the relevant agencies to backtrack and essentially create a false record."

You are claiming that NOAA went back and created maps to match what Trump said?

[JimL]

That "database" is a joke. It lists stuff like opinions, obvious hyperbole, errors, etc as "lies"

It has no credibility and is just leftist TDS propaganda.

That looks like a twebber going on and on for hundreds of pages rather than admitting they are wrong. Sort of a rightist TDS propaganda issue.

[Sam]

Whaaaat? Now that sounds like a conspiracy theory, Sam.

How so? There was no map like the one Trump drew. There were different, earlier maps that had a larger cone which included AL but there was no map that had Trump's little "see i was right" bump.

--Sam

[Sparko]

In 928 days, President Trump has made
12,019 false or misleading claims

I'm imagining the haggard miens of the folks working that treadmill. If it weren't for his penchant for repetition, they'd never get a break.

That "database" is a joke. It lists stuff like opinions, obvious hyperbole, errors, etc as "lies"

It has no credibility and is just leftist TDS propaganda.

[Sparko]

No, you posted a screenshot of an earlier (~Aug. 29/30) projection cone that doesn't include a weird little hump.

It remains the case that Trump misrepresented the projection data and analysis at the time and then later (seemingly successfully) compelled the relevant agencies to backtrack and essentially create a false record.

Whaaaat? Now that sounds like a conspiracy theory, Sam.