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[Adrift]

Oh like the Charlottesville lie the MSM spouted in 2017? that Trump was supporting the White supremacists.

oh and btw the guy in the video showing you what the lie is. He's Steve Cortes a CNN analyst, He at least knows context matters and shows it here.

From another comment in another thread:

Am I missing something? The guy in the video, Steve Cortez, is not a CNN guy. He's a political commentator who was invited onto CNN. He apparently also does political commentating on CNBC, and Fox News. And they say right there in the intro that he's, "a member of the Trump 2020 reelection committee."

[Charles]

Yeah, he gets a speech writer to make it better, says it himself, so of course, you assume he doesn't mean it.

Dude, you're a real jerk.

There is no problem in someone else writing the speech. And the lines quoted were good. The problem is I have to assume he does not mean it because what he ususally says or tweets suggests so.

[One Bad Pig]

There is no problem in someone else writing the speech. And the lines quoted were good. The problem is I have to assume he does not mean it because what he ususally says or tweets suggests so.

We should always take someone's statements in the way a hostile person would interpret them over and above a plain statement to the contrary, amirite?

[One Bad Pig]

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Nothing substantive requiring a response.

[seer]

From another comment in another thread:

Except he was completely accurate about what Trump said, I went back and watch the press conference.

[One Bad Pig]

Trump is the President, don't blame the media for reporting what he says.

I don't. I blame them for the accompanying shrilly negative spin - but you knew that already.

[One Bad Pig]

Except he was completely accurate about what Trump said, I went back and watch the press conference.

That's not Adrift's point.

[Charles]

We should always take someone's statements in the way a hostile person would interpret them over and above a plain statement to the contrary, amirite?

I wonder how you came to that conclusion based on what I said.

[seer]

That's not Adrift's point.

Right and my point is it doesn't matter who the guy worked for or not, he was correct.

[Adrift]

Right and my point is it doesn't matter who the guy worked for or not, he was correct.

Who was arguing against that point?

[seer]

Who was arguing against that point?

I was just making sure the point did not get lost.

[Raphael]

I don't think Trump is racist. I think he is an ass, but an equal opportunity ass. He will insult anyone regardless of race, colour creed or gender.

The problem is that the media takes his insults of people who aren't white males to mean that he's racist/a homophobe/a ________phobe etc.
They also do the same with his sometimes very legitimate criticism.

[One Bad Pig]

I wonder how you came to that conclusion based on what I said.

I don't.

[JimL]

I don't. I blame them for the accompanying shrilly negative spin - but you knew that already.

Well, I knew that's how you would see it. You're a Trumpster. But when then pattern fits, it's not a negative spin.

[KingsGambit]

The conservative National Review came out with an editorial about white supremacist violence, and indeed, Trump mentioned it in its speech.

Conservatives rightly hammered Obama for his refusal to condemn Islamic terrorism. However, right now, there have been enough incidents that a pattern has emerged (the attempted Somali apartment attack in Kansas, Dylann Roof in South Carolina, this, Charlottesville, the shooter who cited Calvinism a few weeks ago, though I don't remember the details, the guy who shot up a bar in my hometown hunting for non-white people two years ago) and there are common fingerprints on the dark corners of the Internet, so I give Trump credit for calling a spade a spade. If there had been this many jihadists shooting people, I would hope the connection would be drawn as well.

This matters not to score points in the social justice wars, but because Christians need to combat the message where it comes up, and because people, especially parents of teenagers going the wrong way, need to recognize warning signs of radicalization and get their family members help.