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"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDuh, no kidding Sherlock. There were only 11 republicans from the south in all of congress, 126 democrats. The CR legislation was democrat sponsered and nearly all the democrats voted agin! They went strickly against the democratic agenda and began to vote more and more republican from thence forth. Not that the republican party didn't take advantage of the white supremacist split in the democrat south, they capitalized on it."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHey rogue, ya know how many southern republicans, whether in the House or the Senate voted for the CRA or the VRA in 64 and 65, I believe it was a great big 0. Nough said! The rest of your long winded post isn't worth wasting my time on.
0 out of 11 - you seem to miss the important part about how few Republicans were elected in the South at the time."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYou do remember saying that particular statistics wasn't relevant to the argument - and I actually agreed - don't you?
0 out of 11 - you seem to miss the important part about how few Republicans were elected in the South at the time.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo, they didn't - the South remained solidly DEMOCRAT until the 1980's and did not become solidly REPUBLICAN until the 1990's - Civil Rights did NOT cause that shift. Leftist leanings in the Democratic Party itself - largely beginning in the 1980's - did that.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, but you answered my question after reading it out of context which ended up being an answer to a differnt question.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRight, but they, ie the republicans, both office holders and the constituency, surged throughout the south shortly thereafter. And that took place long before the 80's and 90's."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, but you answered my question after reading it out of context which ended up being an answer to a differnt question.
Originally posted by JimLAnd who was threatening to take away their possessions?
Originally posted by Bill the CatMaybe the rich plantation owners, but most of the foot soldiers just wanted to keep their possessions. I HIGHLY recommend you watch Free State of Jones.
Originally posted by JimLWhich leaves the ultimate reason being that the south wanted to maintain the slave industry.
Originally posted by SparkoYou are both right!
The reason there was a war was because part of the USA decided to split off into their own country. The reason for that was to keep slavery.
Originally posted by CowPokeYou're CRAZY! It was about STATES RIGHTS and EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!!!!!
(Jim, this will be one of the very few times that I'm arguing from a sense of duty and frustration, not from fact)
Originally posted by JimLYeah, and the right the south was fighting for was the right to maintain slavery.
States rights was a canard, and everybody knows it!
So the question was asked in context of why the South fought the Civil War - the Southern foot soldiers being more interested in not having all their possessions seized by an occupying army - that would be the context and my answer addresses it as such."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAs my dad said - "I didn't leave the Democratic Party -- they left me"."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSure, you could put it that way, when the democrat party began to stand up for civil rights they left those behind who continued to stand against them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSure, you could put it that way, when the democrat party began to stand up for civil rights they left those behind who continued to stand against them."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo, you specifically asked:
In direct response to:
Which was in response to:
Which was in response to:
Which was in response to:
And the post that started it was:
So the question was asked in context of why the South fought the Civil War - the Southern foot soldiers being more interested in not having all their possessions seized by an occupying army - that would be the context and my answer addresses it as such."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo, they did not. The South remained solidly Democrat until the 1980's - and did not become solidly Republican until the 1990's.
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