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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJackson is just another White Supremacist!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBut you can tell by the way Trump is looking at Jackson that there is raging hate in his heart.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJackson is just another White Supremacist!
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/597...-at-this-stageAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI caught that too - the seething hatred is just under the surface...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm not making the claim that Trump is a racist but I don't think receiving awards in the past proves anything other than that the recipient donated money to the right people. So it just doesn't strike me as a relevant counterpoint.
Fred Phelps received civil rights awards before becoming famous (he was active in local Democratic politics in the 80s), but he ended up using racist language as part of his crusades, giving the lie to his personal views."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm not making the claim that Trump is a racist but I don't think receiving awards in the past proves anything other than that the recipient donated money to the right people. So it just doesn't strike me as a relevant counterpoint.
Fred Phelps received civil rights awards before becoming famous (he was active in local Democratic politics in the 80s), but he ended up using racist language as part of his crusades, giving the lie to his personal views.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostMaybe it's just me, but it seems to me that Phelps deliberately cultivated the whole Westboro Baptist schtick. I don't consider it indicative of his personal views.
(Having said that, he was quite obviously senile late in his life. I wonder if this may be going on with Trump as well.)
Also, in Phelps' case, he was active as a local pastor for 30 years before he began crusading, so..."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostBut what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person.
(Having said that, he was quite obviously senile late in his life. I wonder if this may be going on with Trump as well.)
Also, in Phelps' case, he was active as a local pastor for 30 years before he began crusading, so...Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe also never bothered getting a seminary degree; wasn't it pretty much always mostly a family affair?
I'm not sure how significant a lack of formal credentials is in the IFB movement, but since I understand that is your background, you would presumably know that more than me."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm not making the claim that Trump is a racist but I don't think receiving awards in the past proves anything other than that the recipient donated money to the right people. So it just doesn't strike me as a relevant counterpoint.
Fred Phelps received civil rights awards before becoming famous (he was active in local Democratic politics in the 80s), but he ended up using racist language as part of his crusades, giving the lie to his personal views."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe also never bothered getting a seminary degree; wasn't it pretty much always mostly a family affair?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostSo, while I agree that awards are often just used to reward donors, it is still evidence that at least at that point, Trump wasn't either a racist or regarded as one. Evidence, even if not proof positive, is still evidence. That, and racists aren't usually major contributors to the NAACP, NECO or related organizations...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe award had nothing to do with Trumps not being a racist. The award was given to him for his work as a successful developer and his German Heritage. The founder of NECO, the organization giving Trump the award, William Denis Fugazy, just happened to be a business associate of Trumps at the time."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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