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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    I see that you skipped over where you claim you provided context, so I'll sincerely ask, do you do anything other than troll?
    He's doing a decent imitation of JimL and the other Jim. Maybe it's all in the name?

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    • The real danger with this president, which seems to be widely ignored, is the claim he regularly makes that he can do anything he wants as president because of Article II (Article II says nothing of the kind). See time stamp 1:38 on this video, and there are many, many others where he makes this claim.



      THIS is what makes Trump a want-to-be autocrat. I'm trying to imagine the reaction of the right if ANY other president made this claim, and I cannot imagine them letting a Clinton or Obama or Carter make this claim without uproar and outrage. But for this president, deafening silence.

      And we are dealing with a first-term president with his eyes on a second term. How much more is he likely to attempt to ACT on this if he is put back in office and does not have the prospect of another term limiting him? Will our systems contain him? With the Republican party and leadership falling in line behind him and endorsing/defending virtually everything he says and does, I have to wonder...
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        I see that you skipped over where you claim you provided context, so I'll sincerely ask, do you do anything other than troll?
        I gave the link to his press conference and his extended remarks regarding the remark. That's not a context?

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        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          He's doing a decent imitation of JimL and the other Jim. Maybe it's all in the name?

          Jims of the world unite!:)

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          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
            The real danger with this president, which seems to be widely ignored, is the claim he regularly makes that he can do anything he wants as president because of Article II (Article II says nothing of the kind). See time stamp 1:38 on this video, and there are many, many others where he makes this claim.



            THIS is what makes Trump a want-to-be autocrat. I'm trying to imagine the reaction of the right if ANY other president made this claim, and I cannot imagine them letting a Clinton or Obama or Carter make this claim without uproar and outrage. But for this president, deafening silence.

            And we are dealing with a first-term president with his eyes on a second term. How much more is he likely to attempt to ACT on this if he is put back in office and does not have the prospect of another term limiting him? Will our systems contain him? With the Republican party and leadership falling in line behind him and endorsing/defending virtually everything he says and does, I have to wonder...
            Would it kill you to put the important bit into actual text, and not make people watch the video to have any idea what you're rabbiting on about?
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            • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Would it kill you to put the important bit into actual text, and not make people watch the video to have any idea what you're rabbiting on about?
              But then the chorus of Trump supporters would complain that the context hadn't been given.

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              • Originally posted by Jim B. View Post
                I was and am thinking about Trump and I'm not laughing. What is there to laugh about? He's the one that's laughing, at the fact that he could "shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters!"
                The fact that you think Trump is Charismatic and has a lot of compliant followers with the levers of power.

                He speaks like a New York street hustler, everyone thinks he is a liar, and nobody with control over the levers of power follows him, they all hate him. He would have to take over both Congress and the Justice branch and eliminate them, in order to become a dictator. He would be dragged out of the white house in cuffs if he tried something like that by the FBI, who also hates him.

                The idea that he could become a dictator is laughable.

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                • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  He's doing a decent imitation of JimL and the other Jim. Maybe it's all in the name?

                  Yeah what's with the name Jim and TDS?

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                  • One thing Trump IS good at, is trolling liberals.

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                    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      The fact that you think Trump is Charismatic
                      You don't think Trump is charismatic? Obviously he doesn't win everybody over but he did amass quite a following that on paper, he shouldn't have, that has remained pretty loyal.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • Originally posted by Jim B. View Post
                        But then the chorus of Trump supporters would complain that the context hadn't been given.
                        What I'm suggesting is not replacing the video, merely augmenting the text. The video qualifies as context.
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                        • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          You don't think Trump is charismatic? Obviously he doesn't win everybody over but he did amass quite a following that on paper, he shouldn't have, that has remained pretty loyal.
                          Yeah. Getting elected to any office pretty much requires some charisma. It's definitely been a requirement for president since the candidates started stumping for themselves.
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                          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            The fact that you think Trump is Charismatic and has a lot of compliant followers with the levers of power.

                            He speaks like a New York street hustler, everyone thinks he is a liar, and nobody with control over the levers of power follows him, they all hate him. He would have to take over both Congress and the Justice branch and eliminate them, in order to become a dictator. He would be dragged out of the white house in cuffs if he tried something like that by the FBI, who also hates him.

                            The idea that he could become a dictator is laughable.
                            Yeah, you who are laughing now... Everyone with control over the levers of power hate him? Have you seen all the Wall Street influence and all the fat cat lobbyists in his cabinet? Amazing how tax cuts and deregulation can buy you love. Everyone thinks he's a liar? Except for the 40% of the populace who think he is Cheeto Jesus. And that 40% is highly mobilized and motivated as we can see here even on this message board. And all these Federal Depts and agencies he's staffing with his toadies like Bill Barr at DOJ and demoralizing their underlings. As far as someone being laughable, that's how most autocrats start out. Hitler was a loser, a failed painter, Franco had a crippling inferiority complex.That's what makes them tick. They were all clowns....with tanks.

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                            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              One thing Trump IS good at, is trolling liberals.
                              Yeah, that says more than maybe you intended. It seems that the right now is little more than a way of giving it to the libtards. Politics has devolved to the WWF, so it's fitting that the President should be a WWF Promoter.

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                              • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                You don't think Trump is charismatic? Obviously he doesn't win everybody over but he did amass quite a following that on paper, he shouldn't have, that has remained pretty loyal.
                                People like him because
                                1. He really pisses off the liberals
                                2. He does what he says he will do
                                3. He isn't Hillary
                                4. He put two conservatives in the SCOTUS

                                Charismatic usually refers to someone with a charming presence, a smooth talker. That ain't Trump. I don't know of anyone who really likes his personality or the way he acts.

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