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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostI think so many who have been Christians for a long time, (I think esp. those who accepted Christ at a young age and basically grew up in the church) see a new Christian come to Christ, and think, why is he still listening to Death Metal music? Why is he still using coarse/foul language. Why are they continuing to gossip or be gluttons? Why is he still drinking alcohol?... or whatever you want to name....and harshly chastise them for this "sin". It many times ends up driving them right back out of the church...I've seen it happen more than once. Not that we don't correct them necessarily but, it should be done in love...and from God's viewpoint, not ours. For instance, I don't think Trump's supposed conversion was that long ago, and I doubt he has many Christians around him to emulate Christian behavior.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMeanwhile, Buttigieg continues to grapple with politics at home...
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/pete...ndraising.html
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostIf social mores direct a Christian's course, he is not following the course set by Christ.The brand of Christianity that opposed slavery is the same that opposed the tendency to follow societal norms and pushed for emancipation. The movement arose first among Christians.In Hong Kong right now, (as I have previously made mention of) Christians are defying the churches, to protect demonstrators protesting a change of law that would see political undesirables extradited to Mainland China.
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Christians were, I will admit, somewhat slow on the uptake regarding this issue. However, Christians did support, and still do, the right to self determination for gays once the problem was identified. Equal - not superior - rights for outsiders doesn't extend as far as allowing those outsiders to dictate what people not of their group are permitted to believe and advocate.
Actions which even you acknowledge have noting to do with Christianity.
Completely false assessment on your part. The same organisations that formerly advocated slavery as compatible with Christianity now advocate homosexual unions as compatible with Christianity. The churches are playing the same old game, and Christians are resisting the churches in the same old way.
And yet, that insignificant minority (3%) acts to protect the majority. True - they do so legally, but in defiance of the governing bodies, church and secular both. Non-Christians in Hong Kong have acknowledged their contribution - so your assessment is based on nothing.Last edited by tabibito; 07-02-2019, 12:49 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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but that won't prevent others from
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of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAnd yet Pete Buttigieg raised $24.8 million in the second quarter as his White House bid gains momentum.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/pete...ndraising.html
So why do you and little jimmy work so hard to defend someone who is obviously thought of by blacks as being far more racist than Trump is perceived as?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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IOW, the minority (Christians) are putting themselves at risk to protect the majority.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAnd yet Pete Buttigieg raised $24.8 million in the second quarter as his White House bid gains momentum.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMeanwhile, among blacks (who nearly all Democrat consultants say must turn out in mass for the Democrats to win in 2020) Buttigieg is polling at 0%, according to a new CNN poll. OTOH Trump support among blacks is around 12% (up 4 points from 2016).
So why do you and little jimmy work so hard to defend someone who is obviously thought of by blacks as being far more racist than Trump is perceived as?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAnd yet Pete Buttigieg raised $24.8 million in the second quarter as his White House bid gains momentum.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/pete...ndraising.htmlVeritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIf he's pulling in essentially none of the black vote, there's no way he can win the primary election. By all means, get him at the top of the Democrat ticket.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3521666...o_tab_contents*
And here in 2008:
https://pridesource.com/article/30619/
Jim
*this paper is a bit old - 2003Last edited by oxmixmudd; 07-02-2019, 08:58 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat could be a problem - but I would say it is likely his gayness combined with his mayoral police force problems, not just his mayoral police problems. Even relatively recent research show the black culture in the US is far less accepting of LBGT than the white culture. IOW, even if he can fix his perception as supporting racist officers, he has an uphill battle in the black community. And since the Black community is a core support group for the democrats, I would agree he's going to be a hard sell overall.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3521666...o_tab_contents
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And here in 2008:
https://pridesource.com/article/30619/
Jim
*this paper is a bit old - 2003The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMeanwhile, among blacks (who nearly all Democrat consultants say must turn out in mass for the Democrats to win in 2020) Buttigieg is polling at 0%, according to a new CNN poll. OTOH Trump support among blacks is around 12% (up 4 points from 2016).
So why do you and little jimmy work so hard to defend someone who is obviously thought of by blacks as being far more racist than Trump is perceived as?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI was defending Buttigieg status as a christian, dummy.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPart of this, IMOHBAO, is the fact that the LBGTQ+ forces constantly attempt to equate their own challenges with the equal rights struggles of blacks. I think most blacks will tell you it's not the same.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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