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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostChristian faith on the whole is very much incompatible with the hypocrisy you describe. The flaw is in the people and a culture that has developed in american evangelical circles that is blind to its own moral dissonance. This is human nature, the human nature we believe necessitated Christ's death. We are all very much capable of believing very much the right thing, yet acting out 180 degrees out of sync with that belief and at the same time thinking that somehow it's all justifiable.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostChristian faith on the whole is very much incompatible with the hypocrisy you describe. The flaw is in the people and a culture that has developed in american evangelical circles that is blind to its own moral dissonance. This is human nature, the human nature we believe necessitated Christ's death. We are all very much capable of believing very much the right thing, yet acting out 180 degrees out of sync with that belief and at the same time thinking that somehow it's all justifiable.
Jim
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostWe've instituted a policy in our church that with kids, there's always 2 adults in the room at all times. And a one adult is absolutely never to be alone with a single child.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWell, as someone outside Evangelical circles, I can only assess them by their actions. And the undeniable fact is that the man THEY put into power is an immoral reprobate. And they continue to defend him.
What that means then in practical terms is that one must be careful to recognize that since the teachings of Christ are opposing this behavior, you can expect there are many Christians in the world that would be just as offended as you are, and thus it would be unfair to ascribe this behaviour to Christian faith itself. Just as it is unfair to ascribe the practice of suicide bombing necessarily to the Muslim faith.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostWe've instituted a policy in our church that with kids, there's always 2 adults in the room at all times. And a one adult is absolutely never to be alone with a single child.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, you secretly know that Trump is guilty of many things and ignore it because your a member of the tribe.Last edited by seer; 04-07-2019, 10:23 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, I would not doubt that Trump had some shady business deals, he was a NY developer for goodness sake.
But collusion with the Russians to fix the election (which this is all about), no, I don't see it - and neither did Mueller. And really Jim don't be so bitter, it is not good for you. We will survive Trump, just as we survived Obama or Bush or Clinton.Last edited by JimL; 04-07-2019, 12:50 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostWell, as someone outside Evangelical circles, I can only assess them by their actions. And the undeniable fact is that the man THEY put into power is an immoral reprobate. And they continue to defend him.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, I would not doubt that Trump had some shady business deals, he was a NY developer for goodness sake. But collusion with the Russians to fix the election (which this is all about), no, I don't see it - and neither did Mueller. And really Jim don't be so bitter, it is not good for you. We will survive Trump, just as we survived Obama or Bush or Clinton.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat you say is quite true. It is on us to live up to what we say we believe. My only point is, the fault lies not in what christ and the scriptures teach, but in the people that claim to represent what Christ and the scriptures teach.
What that means then in practical terms is that one must be careful to recognize that since the teachings of Christ are opposing this behavior, you can expect there are many Christians in the world that would be just as offended as you are, and thus it would be unfair to ascribe this behaviour to Christian faith itself. Just as it is unfair to ascribe the practice of suicide bombing necessarily to the Muslim faith.
JimLast edited by Tassman; 04-07-2019, 11:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRather, we defend the President from false accusations and treasonous attempts to remove him from office.I personally have not seen a single person defend his personal moral failings.
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