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  • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    It seems more a matter of understanding the technique well enough to recognise when it is being used. Nothing in the actual quotes shows any attempt to extend the - thoroughly normal - characterisation of violent thugs as animals to others.
    No, Trump quite deliberately and rightly referred to MS13 as animals. Of course the mainstream media erased all reference to MS13 and deceptively reported the story as "Trump refers to illegal immigrants as animals".
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      No, Trump quite deliberately and rightly referred to MS13 as animals. Of course the mainstream media erased all reference to MS13 and deceptively reported the story as "Trump refers to illegal immigrants as animals".
      Yep - I see reports like that about Trump and Biden (for example) these days, and I can't help but wonder if they've been caught feeding the koi.
      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
      .
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      Scripture before Tradition:
      but that won't prevent others from
      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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      • Yet another shining example of our resident media tourist hard at work...
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          No, he wasn't, you dip. He was speaking about MS13 who sneak across the border. And the word is "technique" - when you want to criticize someone, at least try to use a spell checker.
          There are relatively few gang members slipping into the country so Trumps rhetoric concerning them is simply a ruse to rile up you idiots into supporting his drastic immigration policies. Get a clue!

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            There are relatively few gang members slipping into the country so Trumps rhetoric concerning them is simply a ruse to rile up you idiots into supporting his drastic immigration policies. Get a clue!
            Don't hurt your back moving that goalpost, Jimmy...
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
              There are relatively few gang members slipping into the country so Trumps rhetoric concerning them is simply a ruse to rile up you idiots into supporting his drastic immigration policies. Get a clue!
              What an idiot. MS13 is in nearly every major city. "relatively few" -- JimL you are a moron.

              Just go do a google image search on MS13 murders. I would post some photos here but it would violate our rules, they are too horrific to post here. They are indeed animals. Heck calling them animals is an insult to animals. They are monsters.

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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                No, Trump quite deliberately and rightly referred to MS13 as animals. Of course the mainstream media erased all reference to MS13 and deceptively reported the story as "Trump refers to illegal immigrants as animals".
                Actually if anything Trump was insulting animals by likening MS13 to them.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  There are relatively few gang members slipping into the country so Trumps rhetoric concerning them is simply a ruse to rile up you idiots into supporting his drastic immigration policies. Get a clue!
                  Yeah what's 10,000 or so homicidal maniacs who live by their motto "mata, viola, controla" (kill, rape, control).

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Yeah what's 10,000 or so homicidal maniacs who live by their motto "mata, viola, controla" (kill, rape, control).
                    Perhaps JimL would like to invite them to his house for drinks!
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Perhaps JimL would like to invite them to his house for drinks!
                      He probably thinks MS13 is that TV show where the guy and the robots watch old sci-fi movies and make jokes.

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                      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        He probably thinks MS13 is that TV show where the guy and the robots watch old sci-fi movies and make jokes.
                        Maybe they would only "relatively" kill him.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          I don't think he was talking about excesses on either side tabibito, he was talking about the fascist charateristics of many of Trump supporters here on tweb vs the few supporters and defenders of democracy who have to put up with them.. And being exessive in defending the latter is not a bad thing.
                          Hello JimL,
                          Hello again Tass,

                          Please, stop with this prejudiced liberal talking point, Yes I said prejudiced. It is you two that are the prejudiced. When Trump says MS13 (a specific subset of illegal immigrants) you equate MS13 with all immigrants and say he is calling all immigrants "Animals". I know this is a common trick that liberals use when they have no argument. But it is the definition of prejudiced.


                          You two are saying that since MS13 are immigrants and all immigrants are good then MS13 has to be a good group.

                          So, unless you can prove to me that a gang of illegal immigrants that commits vile and grotesque murders of young girls "Has a spark of divinity" I have call you on your prejudiced.

                          Also it does not matter how many MS13 members there are in the U.S. numbers have nothing to do with the fact that they murder people and rule by terror.
                          Last edited by The Pendragon; 04-10-2019, 06:05 PM.
                          "Any sufficiently advanced technology, is indistinguishable from Magic!"
                          -- Arthur C. Clark

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                          • Originally posted by The Pendragon View Post
                            Hello JimL,
                            Hello again Tass,

                            Please, stop with this prejudiced liberal talking point, Yes I said prejudiced. It is you two that are the prejudiced. When Trump says MS13 (a specific subset of illegal immigrants) you equate MS13 with all immigrants and say he is calling all immigrants "Animals". I know this is a common trick that liberals use when they have no argument. But it is the definition of prejudiced.


                            You two are saying that since MS13 are immigrants and all immigrants are good then MS13 has to be a good group.

                            So, unless you can prove to me that a gang of illegal immigrants that commits vile and grotesque murders of young girls "Has a spark of divinity" I have call you on your prejudiced.

                            Also it does not matter how many MS13 members there are in the U.S. numbers have nothing to do with the fact that they murder people and rule by terror.
                            He is using the MS13 gang members as if they are representative of all immigants in order to push his drastic inhumane immigration policies. Get a clue guys!

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              He is using the MS13 gang members as if they are representative of all immigants in order to push his drastic inhumane immigration policies. Get a clue guys!
                              Nope. You're just wrong. And since you can't even spell immigrants, you're even WRONGERererer.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Nope. You're just wrong. And since you can't even spell immigrants, you're even WRONGERererer.
                                No, I'm exactly right, but as a supporter and defender of the treasonous, corrupt, con man, President Trump, I understand that you'll never get it.

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