Transgender sprinters finish 1st, 2nd at Connecticut girls indoor track championships

[Electric Skeptic]

The simplest thing DNA can tell you is whether someone is male or female. Science. Ignore the science!!!

It has nothing to do with science; gender is not a scientific term. It is not scientifically determined.

[Electric Skeptic]

"Gender" has often been used as a synonym for sex. Same thing.

No, it's not the same thing. Whether gender has been used as a synonym for sex is irrelevant; it is not now a synonym for sex.

In Sociology, the "gender roles" were acknowledged to be less rigid.

Like so many things in the "soft sciences", these things are taken to nutter extremes like gender being totally disconnected from sex, which is determined by the "hard science" of biology.

Yet again, gender has nothing to do with biology or science. Gender is neither a biological nor a scientific term.

[Mountain Man]

A person's gender is what they identify as, not what their biology says.

A person's species is what they identify as, not what their biology says.

[Cow Poke]

No, it's not the same thing.

You obviously didn't read what I wrote.

Whether gender has been used as a synonym for sex is irrelevant; it is not now a synonym for sex.

That's only because the loony left has grabbed onto the "soft sciences" and totally ignore the "hard sciences" in this regard.

Yet again, gender has nothing to do with biology or science. Gender is neither a biological nor a scientific term.

You can stomp and snort and stand on your head and repeat this drivel all day long, but the fact is that biology is a hard science, complete with physical evidence, and sociology is as "fluid" as the "gender" they preach.

[rogue06]

Nobody's using "a term that is fluid and the meaning of which can change depending on which way the wind blows it is effectively useless". Gender does not mean sex. A person's gender is what they identify as, not what their biology says.

It used to be synonymous. But after failing to change the meaning of sex they instead focused on gender.

[Cow Poke]

It used to be synonymous. But after failing to change the meaning of sex they instead focused on gender.

Because sex can be determined and defined by the hard sciences, and gender can be made fluid with the squishy sciences.

[rogue06]

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[rogue06]

Because sex can be determined and defined by the hard sciences, and gender can be made fluid with the squishy sciences.

Going back to what I said a few days ago.

That reminds me of how I was taught that psychology, psychiatry, sociology, economics and political science weren't really science since you could get half a dozen eminent experts on any of those topics, ask them a question and you'd get six completely different answers.

[Electric Skeptic]

You obviously didn't read what I wrote.

That's neither obvious nor true.

That's only because the loony left has grabbed onto the "soft sciences" and totally ignore the "hard sciences" in this regard.

You seem to have a been in your bonnet about hard vs soft science. This has nothing to do with either.

You can stomp and snort and stand on your head and repeat this drivel all day long, but the fact is that biology is a hard science, complete with physical evidence, and sociology is as "fluid" as the "gender" they preach.

I'm neither stomping, snorting, standing on my head or repeating any drivel. Whether biology is a hard science completely irrelevant to the issue.

[Electric Skeptic]

It used to be synonymous. But after failing to change the meaning of sex they instead focused on gender.

I don't know that they tried to change the meaning of sex. In any case, yes, the meaning of 'gender' has changed. So what?

[Electric Skeptic]

Because sex can be determined and defined by the hard sciences, and gender can be made fluid with the squishy sciences.

Yet again, it has nothing to do with science.

[Cow Poke]

Yet again, it has nothing to do with science.

Well, yeah, it does, but since science proves you wrong, "pay no attention to the scientist behind the curtain".

[Electric Skeptic]

Well, yeah, it does, but since science proves you wrong, "pay no attention to the scientist behind the curtain".

No, it doesn't. Science doesn't even speak to the issue.

[Cow Poke]

No, it doesn't. Science doesn't even speak to the issue.

How is it possible for you to type with your eyes slammed shut? Biology most certainly DOES address the issue of sex. It's ignorant to declare otherwise.

And the SOFT sciences address the issue of gender fluidity.

[Bill the Cat]

How is it possible for you to type with your eyes slammed shut? Biology most certainly DOES address the issue of sex. It's ignorant to declare otherwise.

And the SOFT sciences address the issue of gender fluidity.

And gender rests completely on the existence of the 2 biological sexes. "man" presupposes a male archetype and "woman" presupposes a female archetype.