How do you, personally, define 'left-wing' vs 'right-wing'?

[Mountain Man]

I think, for the most part, the policies of the left are well intentioned, but poorly thought out and badly implemented.

As the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

But then I wonder what "good intentions" mean to someone like Nancy Pelosi, or Barack Obama. There seems to be this idea among the liberal elite that the average person is generally incapable of caring for himself, and so the government must place certain limits and controls on his life for his own good. Are intentions still good if they're derived from an entirely wrong premise?

[Sparko]

Right-wing: supporting the authorities and the elite - monarchy, aristocracy, church.
Left wing: supporting the masses.

Not sure about over in Europe but in the USA, the conservatives are about minimal government control, less authority. We believe the government is there to protect our rights, and keep the peace. Other than that, they need to leave us alone to live our lives the way we want, with as little interference in our business or our personal lives as possible.

[Sparko]

I think, for the most part, the policies of the left are well intentioned, but poorly thought out and badly implemented.

Instead of handling things themselves, like charity, they want the government to do it for them, and force their policies on everyone. It's great to want to help your neighbor. It's not so great when you want to force your other neighbors to do it for you.

[firstfloor]

So good to hear from you, ff. Right on cue after the mention of Comedy Central.

[Mountain Man]

Instead of handling things themselves, like charity, they want the government to do it for them, and force their policies on everyone. It's great to want to help your neighbor. It's not so great when you want to force your other neighbors to do it for you.

Like Barack Obama once said, "Now is the time for all Americans to reach deep into their pockets to help the less fortunate. You go first!"

(Or maybe that was an Obama parody I once heard on the Rush Limbaugh Show. )

[lilpixieofterror]

Right-wing: supporting the authorities and the elite - monarchy, aristocracy, church.
Left wing: supporting the masses.

[lilpixieofterror]

Left wing: hoodwinking the masses into allowing them to have the power and take their money.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, but that's a little ways down the road - we can't let folks know about that phase just yet.

[Starlight]

Science is not on the side of the abortionist. Period.

This is the sort of droolingly insane statement I was referring to.

[Starlight]

Sounds like someone got triggered!

Congrats you've "triggered the libs", your life goal as a conservative has been achieved.

Don't bother responding to the substance, it's clearly way beyond you.

[Starlight]

For example, Men who 'identify' with women, or 'feel like they are a woman in a man's body' are still without equivocation in a MAN's body. Likewise the inverse for females. Scientifically (except in the smallest set of cases), they are male or female, regardless of what their mental state would prefer.

You know that transgender people aren't confused about their bodies right? You get that a transgender woman is dissatisfied with having a male body, just like you might be dissatisfied with the current state of your hair. Your statement that a transgender woman is in a man's body is pretty close to being the definition of transgender, but it seems like you think by stating it you are somehow making a relevant point. It's not as if liberals are claiming the transgender woman isn't in a man's body.

You appear to be confusing gender (social roles and constructs a society provides for individuals to adopt - many societies in human history have had 5 genders) with biological sex (the physical body of the person).

That means that, say in sports, they shouldn't be allowed to compete against...

Sports are arbitrary human constructs with arbitrary and arguments over what is 'fair' with regard to what categories people should be allowed to compete in are somewhat arbitrary. I find most sports boring at best, and the topic has zero to do with science, so I'm not interested in any sports-based discussions.

[Starlight]

You've never been to an American university in the past 5 years then, have you?

Neither have you.

[Roy]

Not sure about over in Europe but in the USA, the conservatives are about minimal government control, less authority. We believe the government is there to protect our rights, and keep the peace. Other than that, they need to leave us alone to live our lives the way we want, with as little interference in our business or our personal lives as possible.

Unless that personal life includes polygamy, recreational drug use, pornography, learning about evolution, homosexuality or rejecting Christianity.

[oxmixmudd]

You know that transgender people aren't confused about their bodies right? You get that a transgender woman is dissatisfied with having a male body, just like you might be dissatisfied with the current state of your hair. Your statement that a transgender woman is in a man's body is pretty close to being the definition of transgender, but it seems like you think by stating it you are somehow making a relevant point. It's not as if liberals are claiming the transgender woman isn't in a man's body.

You appear to be confusing gender (social roles and constructs a society provides for individuals to adopt - many societies in human history have had 5 genders) with biological sex (the physical body of the person).

Sports are arbitrary human constructs with arbitrary and arguments over what is 'fair' with regard to what categories people should be allowed to compete in are somewhat arbitrary. I find most sports boring at best, and the topic has zero to do with science, so I'm not interested in any sports-based discussions.

Nope. Fundamentally we allow separate men and womens categories because of the significant difference in physical capabilities genetically defined. A person that has a man's body thus should not be allowed to compete in women's sport. You could take away the distintion entirely i suppose, but this stuff is just a farce

Jim

[Roy]

Right-wing: supporting the authorities and the elite - monarchy, aristocracy, church.
Left wing: supporting the masses.

I have no idea what point you think you're making, nor do I care.