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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI would tend to recommend against that. MM's articles tend to be so full of falsehoods, misleading claims, and general nonsense, that it probably lowers the IQ of anyone exposed to them.
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Originally posted by DivineBoob View PostI read your summary. If your summary failed to summarize then that's not my fault.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's also a way to violate my rights to have a jury of my peers.
I have a friend who has been in-country for 20 years now. He has a green card - but has never pursued citizenship. Yet he knows this country well, considers it home, and has been my colleague for 20 years. In any real way, I consider him my "peer." Citizenship has little/nothing to do with it.
Does a peer have to be "exactly like you?" Presumably not. If not, then what differences are and are not permitted? At what point do they cease to be your peer?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
The people manning the polling places can commit fraud, so it is important for polling stations to be manned by trustworthy people and to have safeguards in place (i.e., no one works alone) to help protect against this.
As for absentee voting, that is all I have done for the last 20 years, even when I am in town. Again, I request the ballot, it is sent to me by mail or I pick it up, and my name is recorded as receiving an absentee ballot. I cannot vote in person once I have made that request. If my ballot is lost, it is lost and I am out of luck.
I also note this article is pretty strongly slanted to anti-democrat views and apparently ignores the instances of voter fraud perpetrated by Republicans. It also tries to paint as "common" (largely through unsupported insinuation) and problem that study after study has shown to be rare. Even groups trying to build a database of documented voter fraud have found themselves with just over a thousand instances of voter fraud nationwide over a 20 year period of voting, a period during which billions of votes were cast, making the fraud rate less than 0.000001%. Any business in the world would drool to achieve an error rate so low.
Once again, the "boogeyman" of voter fraud is being raised to achieve one and only one end: reduce voter turnout. Why? Because most Republicans know that when voters turn out - Democrats tend to win. And reductions in voter turn out typically are skewed to the poor and minorities, which again directly targets Democratic voter turnout. It is part and parcel of a "win at any cost" model the Republican party has adopted - even if it disenfranchises their own fellow citizens.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostI read your summary. If your summary failed to summarize then that's not my fault.
He also does that when responding to posters. He regularly takes single sentences or fragments out of context, often changing their meaning in the process. With MM, always follow the links to get the full story. You cannot trust the fragments he posts.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou have to be careful with MM. His SOP is to extract a piece of an article, sometimes even single sentences or even fragments of sentences, that paint a picture he wants to paint. He provides the link to the original article, presumably to salve his conscience. When you go to the actual article, most of the time you will find that what MM has presented is not what the article is saying or concluding. In other words - he cherry picks pieces of articles to support his pre-existing conclusion.
He also does that when responding to posters. He regularly takes single sentences or fragments out of context, often changing their meaning in the process. With MM, always follow the links to get the full story. You cannot trust the fragments he posts.Last edited by DivineOb; 05-29-2020, 12:07 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostLike we didn't know...Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-29-2020, 12:14 PM.
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Not sure if this was brought up here, but... yeah...
NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid Corruption Claims
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWith MM, always follow the links to get the full story.
And I ALWAYS provide sources.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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