So what is this toxic masculinity thing anyhow?

[Tassman]

So a matter of degree? Let's say someone regularly fantasizes about having sex with children or raping women. Is that normal?

I repeat: IF such thoughts result significant distress or impairment of personal functioning then they are categorized as a mental disorder best treated by a therapist. IF such fantasies are acted upon, then the perpetrators must face the full consequences of the law.

[Sparko]

He is being accused of

The definition of sexual harassment is "unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances"




sniffing hair, putting his hands under a breast, kissing the back of their head, rubbing noses with them. Sounds like feeling up to me.


You just have a double standard. We have photos of Biden's inappropriate touching yet you excuse it. At the same time you condemn Trump for mere bragging without any evidence.

[Sparko]

I repeat: IF such thoughts result significant distress or impairment of personal functioning then they are categorized as a mental disorder best treated by a therapist. IF such fantasies are acted upon, then the perpetrators must face the full consequences of the law.

You are dodging the question. Do you think a pedophile is distressed that he is a pedophile? They ENJOY what they are doing! That is what makes them a pedophile. Heck if they were distressed by it, then they might actually be sane enough to seek help.

So if someone regularly fantasizes about having sex with children or raping women. Is that normal?

Yes or no?

[Tassman]

The definition of sexual harassment is "unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances"




sniffing hair, putting his hands under a breast, kissing the back of their head, rubbing noses with them. Sounds like feeling up to me.




You just have a double standard. We have photos of Biden's inappropriate touching yet you excuse it.

At the same time you condemn Trump for mere bragging without any evidence.

[Tassman]

You are dodging the question.

Do you think a pedophile is distressed that he is a pedophile? They ENJOY what they are doing! That is what makes them a pedophile.

No, what makes them a pedophile is their preference for sex with underage people. Some people (heterosexual or homosexual) have occasional urges for underage sex, just as some heterosexuals have occasional urges for same-sex encounters or lascivious thoughts about forced sex with beautiful women. Provided these passing fantasies are under control they are not a problem.

Heck if they were distressed by it, then they might actually be sane enough to seek help.

do seek professional help, as do many people suffering from various different forms of obsessive sexual ideation that impact negatively on their lives.

So if someone regularly fantasizes about having sex with children or raping women. Is that normal?

Yes or no?

[Sparko]

Do you think nobody notices you keep trying to swap out terms? I said "harassment" NOT "abuse"

[Sparko]

Cavorting with porn stars would be consensual. Allegations of "sexual aggression" were all withdrawn. With Biden we have allegations and actual video and photos. So it is clear you excuse Biden and condemn Trump. Double-standard.

[Sparko]

do

So basically you know it is abnormal to have fantasies about sex with children, but you refuse to admit it because you don't want to admit that we are correct. At the same time you have an agenda to protect so you won't come out and say it is "normal" but you want to imply it.

You are so transparent Tassman.

No, Tassman, normal people do not have fantasies or urges for underage sex. That is abnormal. And normal heterosexuals don't have urges for homosexual sex or rape. Those are all abnormal desires and urges. And sick.

[MaxVel]

I can't take Tassman seriously at all on this topic **. He can't give any consistent basis for moral behaviour in this area from within his own worldview. That gives him no grounds to criticise anyone else. So I don't see any reason to care what he thinks of Trump or Biden or anyone else's moral behaviour in this area. He's shown himself to be completely confused about it.

Guess we should just follow the great example of 'our closest relative' the chimpanzee.



** Actually on pretty much any topic for that matter. How's the 'Jesus myth' stuff going?

[Sparko]

I can't take Tassman seriously at all on this topic **. He can't give any consistent basis for moral behaviour in this area from within his own worldview. That gives him no grounds to criticise anyone else. So I don't see any reason to care what he thinks of Trump or Biden or anyone else's moral behaviour in this area. He's shown himself to be completely confused about it.

Guess we should just follow the great example of 'our closest relative' the chimpanzee.



** Actually on pretty much any topic for that matter. How's the 'Jesus myth' stuff going?

Tassman mostly just trolls here. Nothing he says makes sense and he just keeps repeating himself.

He is either a complete moron or trolling. I just give him the benefit of the doubt and say "trolling"

[tabibito]

Tassman mostly just trolls here. Nothing he says makes sense and he just keeps repeating himself.

He is either a complete moron or trolling. I just give him the benefit of the doubt and say "trolling"

Maybe he is just hoping for that "tell a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth" thing to kick in.

[JimL]

So basically you know it is abnormal to have fantasies about sex with children, but you refuse to admit it because you don't want to admit that we are correct. At the same time you have an agenda to protect so you won't come out and say it is "normal" but you want to imply it.

Tell us how it is that you know what is and isn't normal, Sparko. For instance in the above case?

You are so transparent Tassman.

No, Tassman, normal people do not have fantasies or urges for underage sex. That is abnormal. And normal heterosexuals don't have urges for homosexual sex or rape. Those are all abnormal desires and urges. And sick.

How do you know? What makes a thing normal or abnormal in your opinion?

[tabibito]

Normal usually means usual. Or should that be, normal normally means usual?

[Sparko]

Tell us how it is that you know what is and isn't normal, Sparko. For instance in the above case?

When was the last time you fantasized about having sex with children, or raping women JimL? If it is normal I am sure you have had such urges, right? Tell us about them.

How do you know? What makes a thing normal or abnormal in your opinion?

What most civilized people who are not insane do is normal. Typical of the species.

[tabibito]

When was the last time you fantasized about having sex with children, or raping women JimL? If it is normal I am sure you have had such urges, right? Tell us about them.



What most civilized people who are not insane do is normal. Typical of the species.

That too