Trump's Christian supporters are unchristian

[Tassman]

I just read a very interesting article that puts some very good and exact words on how I have experienced Christians, or should I say so called Christians, behave on tweb.

The main point, which is one with which I agree is, that many (but definitely not all) white evangelical Christians have lost grip on morality and given up their social responsibility. I think their continued support for Trump even after his very worst deeds makes this rather obvious.

I think they would argue that theywe are the ones who have got it right.

[JonathanL]

Yeah Charles, only christians get to decide for the rest of us what is right and what is wrong behavior.

Yeah, because that's exactly what I said.

[Mountain Man]

No. CHRIST defines what our behaviour should be. And it is an absolute disgrace that weve ignored His words to the point non-Christians are calling us out on it.

Which of Jesus' commands preclude us from voting for Trump as president? Chapter and verse, if you don't mind.

Of all the candidates who ran for president in both parties, who was the "morally acceptable" choice? That is to say, who could Real Christians ^TM have safely voted for without running the risk of being "called out" for it by hypocritical self-righteous liberals?

[rogue06]

No. CHRIST defines what our behaviour should be. And it is an absolute disgrace that weve ignored His words to the point non-Christians are calling us out on it.

Jim

Non-Christians have been grousing about Christians not behaving the way that they want us to for decades if not centuries.

[lilpixieofterror]

No. CHRIST defines what our behaviour should be. And it is an absolute disgrace that weve ignored His words to the point non-Christians are calling us out on it.

Jim

Looks like Jim prefers that we live under the rule of criminal Hillary and her criminal syndicate just so he can clutch his pearls and talk about principles while those in power trample over those principles daily.

[lilpixieofterror]

Actually I doubt the author was specifically accusing you Lilpix, but white evangelicals in general. But by your reaction though, I guess the dart must have hit home, eh?

By that logic why are you on a Christian ran forum? Terrified that God might be real?

[JimL]

By that logic why are you on a Christian ran forum? Terrified that God might be real?

It's only believers that are terrified of a god, lilpix. That was its creators original plan!

[Catholicity]

Which of Jesus' commands preclude us from voting for Trump as president? Chapter and verse, if you don't mind.

Of all the candidates who ran for president in both parties, who was the "morally acceptable" choice? That is to say, who could Real Christians ^TM have safely voted for without running the risk of being "called out" for it by hypocritical self-righteous liberals?

Okay Look. Trump isn't exactly a Christian here. and no there wasn't a morally acceptable choice from either side. It didn't matter who you voted for you were going to have to disregard moral things in 2016. Frankly I've seen Christians do and say some very very sickening things to defend Donald Trump's actions. It's a disgrace. I'm not defending social justice warriors here by any means, But when you who claim to be a Christian pretend that touching another person is ok, or that a homeless person should simply do without because you think they aren't willing to work we have another moral problem entirely.

[lilpixieofterror]

It's only believers that are terrified of a god, lilpix. That was its creators original plan!

[oxmixmudd]

Looks like Jim prefers that we live under the rule of criminal Hillary and her criminal syndicate just so he can clutch his pearls and talk about principles while those in power trample over those principles daily.

You sound like the adulterers that get mad at church leadership for saying they shouldn't be committing adultery and try to sue the church.


Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

You sound like the adulterers that get mad at church leadership for saying they shouldn't be committing adultery and try to sue the church.


Jim

[Mountain Man]

I'm not defending social justice warriors here by any means, But when you who claim to be a Christian pretend that touching another person is ok, or that a homeless person should simply do without because you think they aren't willing to work we have another moral problem entirely.

Certainly, but I've never seen anyone espouse those views, so this looks suspiciously like attacking a strawman.

[oxmixmudd]

Non-Christians have been grousing about Christians not behaving the way that they want us to for decades if not centuries.

And Christians have been ignoring Christ's words for centuries. So what? It is still a disgrace for a non-Christian familiar with scripture to be able to observe and point out that some of the most basic teachings of scripture regarding our behavior and priorities are being ignored for personal interests. Do you remember what Paul said (paraphrase Eph 2:11-13), that if the natural branches will be cut off for their sin, how much more those that are grafted in?

When Christians defend immorality for their own personal comfort, it is a disgrace. And I'm sorry, looking at the things trump is doing and saying "but we pay less in taxes" or "look at how good the economy is doing" is nothing less than giving the rich man the preferred seat at the table and kicking the poor man out of it.

Over Jesus' entire ministry he never stopped rebuking the excess of the rich and the powerful and pointing out hypocrisy of the abuse of the poor. And he didn't mince words. The RICH man is in hell, and the abused poor man is in Abraham's bosom.

We shouldn't need non-Christians to be pointing out such obvious conflicts with what our faith teaches.

Even more so, we should NOT be trying to justify ourselves when they do.


J1im

[Mountain Man]

You sound like the adulterers that get mad at church leadership for saying they shouldn't be committing adultery and try to sue the church.

Still waiting for chapter and verse. "You shall not commit adultery" is in the Bible, but "You shall not vote for or in any other way support a less than morally perfect political candidate" is not.

[lilpixieofterror]

And Christians have been ignoring Christ's words for centuries. So what? It is still a disgrace for a non-Christian familiar with scripture to be able to observe and point out that some of the most basic teachings of scripture regarding our behavior and priorities are being ignored for personal interests. Do you remember what Paul said (paraphrase Eph 2:11-13), that if the natural branches will be cut off for their sin, how much more those that are grafted in?

When Christians defend immorality for their own personal comfort, it is a disgrace. And I'm sorry, looking at the things trump is doing and saying "but we pay less in taxes" or "look at how good the economy is doing" is nothing less than giving the rich man the preferred seat at the table and kicking the poor man out of it.

Over Jesus' entire ministry he never stopped rebuking the excess of the rich and the powerful and pointing out hypocrisy of the abuse of the poor. And he didn't mince words. The RICH man is in hell, and the abused poor man is in Abraham's bosom.

We shouldn't need non-Christians to be pointing out such obvious conflicts with what our faith teaches.

Even more so, we should NOT be trying to justify ourselves when they do.


J1im

Yes Jim because those that make dumb comments like:

It's only believers that are terrified of a god, lilpix. That was its creators original plan!