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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt's the job of the press to be adversarial to those in power in a democracy. That's part of what separates a democracy from a dictatorship.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThe job of the pres should be to report without bias in any direction. Their job should not be to be adversarial or supportive.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThe job of the pres should be to report without bias in any direction. Their job should not be to be adversarial or supportive.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYou are way overgeneralizing. If there is something going on that the president is trying to hide then the press can expose it. Asking questions that challenge actions is part of that process. It is their job to push so that the leaders know they have to have a reason for what they are doing. The press doesn't just sit back and write what the leaders say.
JimMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThat does not come close to anything I said. There is a clear difference between asking the hard questions, and being biased.
The implication is that bias and being adversarial are related. i.e. not being biased == not being adversarial: The opposite of what you just said above.
These are two separate things. I agree fully with the first, and was not addressing the first element of your statement. But to be adversarial does not imply bias. Nor does being supportive.
For example, to report the facts, sometimes they must be adversarial in order to get the facts. That is, the leader is doing X that looks bad, is bad, is fishy, seems contrary to the nation's best interests etc, and the question that needs be to asked is why they are doing X when it seems to present problem Y, and the leader will view that as being adversarial, and if they don't want to be asked why, it will in fact BE adversarial (they are going against the leaders wishes or perhaps making them look bad or perhaps bring to light why, in fact what they are doing is a bad thing).
That is a situation where their job IS to be adversarial. Adversarial is not a synonym of bias. And their job IS to be adversarial when it is required to get at the truth.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostExactly, yet you said:
The implication is that bias and being adversarial are related. i.e. not being biased == not being adversarial: The opposite of what you just said above.
These are two separate things. I agree fully with the first, and was not addressing the first element of your statement. But to be adversarial does not imply bias. Nor does being supportive.
For example, to report the facts, sometimes they must be adversarial in order to get the facts. That is, the leader is doing X that looks bad, is bad, is fishy, seems contrary to the nation's best interests etc, and the question that needs be to asked is why they are doing X when it seems to present problem Y, and the leader will view that as being adversarial, and if they don't want to be asked why, it will in fact BE adversarial (they are going against the leaders wishes or perhaps making them look bad or perhaps bring to light why, in fact what they are doing is a bad thing).
That is a situation where their job IS to be adversarial. Adversarial is not a synonym of bias. And their job IS to be adversarial when it is required to get at the truth.
JimMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo. He should not. First, would he have known why the young lady was trying to take the mike? Second, how often do reporters push for more answers even when the moderator is trying to move on and it is tolerated? Third, the reason given for the removal was a lie. He did not touch the intern inaporopriately. The only contact was initiated by her and she was trying to forcefully remove the mike from his hand.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostFor that word it depends on context. If it refers to a donkey, allowed, to someone's rear end, it is not.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI don't think he assaulted her or even "put his hands on her" - He was just determined to keep the microphone and shoved her hand away when she reached for it. It seemed to be a reflex reaction.
That said, he was being rude and obnoxious to the President and to the intern and Trump had every right to kick him out and take away his press pass.
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She was obviously "asking for it."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostAcosta was attempting to follow-through with a question Trump clearly did not want to answer. This is what good reporters do, be persistent.
It's funny how you guys want to crucify Trump over mere words but give Jim Accost-her a pass for his inappropriate actions.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Do any of you remember when Lewandowski was charged with battery for merely grabbing the arm of a reporter in order to move her out of the way? The liberals couldn't shut up about it.
Jim Acosta even reported on it himself at the time:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/0...acosta-dnt.cnnLast edited by Sparko; 11-09-2018, 07:49 AM.
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If you call what he did 'using physical force against a women' then I would have to ask just how many mattresses does it take for you to get a good nights sleep pix? That whole line is just ridiculous, from Sanders 'inappropriate touching' down to the discussion here. Is there no depth to which you will not stoop to support 'your guy in the white house'?
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 11-09-2018, 08:01 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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