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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Just trying to help, because you know if you live in France you are only allowed to take a shower once a month, and you have to eat snails by law!
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #32
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      Just trying to help, because you know if you live in France you are only allowed to take a shower once a month...
      Isn't that only in the Summer?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I was thinking that VERY SAME THING!!!! Maybe he needs a hug. You're up!
        For Jim from all of us!
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          This is such a gutless hateful ignorant attack.
          Your opinion, as OBP would say, is duly noted. When you actually start supporting a government that concerns itself with the welfare of its people rather than one that looks the other way, then I'll take you seriously as a follower of the christian philosophy. Until then you are what I would call a pseudo christian, a believer in word only.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            Right - but in the present context, and even as Trump means it, or I, there is nothing wrong with it...Yet the left keeps defining it as evil.
            Partly due to its association with (cue Godwin's Law) Nazis being that "National" is part of their name hence nationalism is bad. But then "Socialist" is also a part of their name and they have no trouble with that

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #36
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              For Jim from all of us!
              Great. Now we all need a shower. Good thing we don't live in France.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Your opinion, as OBP would say, is duly noted.
                It was my opinion based on your gutless hateful ignorant attack, Jim.

                When you actually start supporting a government that concerns itself with the welfare of its people rather than one that looks the other way,
                I willingly pay all my taxes, plus my own charity on top of that, Jim.

                then I'll take you seriously as a follower of the christian philosophy.
                You don't know how many sleepless nights I've spent worrying about that.

                Until then you are what I would call a pseudo christian, a believer in word only.
                Thank you for those kind loving words. Carpe would be so proud.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  seer, saying and doing are two separate things.
                  That is true. While you say you are all for helping the poor and needy, Christians like Seer actually DO help the poor and needy. What was the last thing you did to help the poor? Other than voting to give them other people's money?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    seer, saying and doing are two separate things.
                    Christians believe in using their own resource, rather than taking taxes and spending a tithe of that tax money helping others. The biggest share of those tax dollars seem to go building an expensive bureaucracy and lining politicians pockets.
                    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      I'm a nationalist and generally a trade protectionist, and have probably been most of my adult life. I believe we should put Americans and American workers first. Being a Teamster for ten years, that was the union's thinking back then too. That we should care for our poor and needy first. Why is that wrong?
                      Labour Unions are usually organs of the Left. I thought your politics were Right.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                        Labour Unions are usually organs of the Left. I thought your politics were Right.
                        Yeah!!!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                          Labour Unions are usually organs of the Left. I thought your politics were Right.
                          That was between 30-40 years ago when I was a treasurer in the Teamsters. I grew up in a solidly Democrat home and town (Kennedy and FDR were saints). Except for Nixon I did not vote Republican until 1994, much to the horror of my father (I was in the Marine corps when I voted for Nixon, he gave us a pay raise).
                          Last edited by seer; 10-30-2018, 05:12 PM.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #43
                            I agree with Roger Olson that nationalism is incompatible with Christianity.

                            https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogere...d-nationalism/

                            I don't think protectionism is morally justifiable, either. An American is no more entitled to make a living than anybody else in the world.

                            (It's probably not a surprise that my online chess username is "Mennonite")
                            Last edited by KingsGambit; 10-30-2018, 09:11 PM.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              For Jim from all of us!
                              I'll do my own hugging, thank you.

                              Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                              Beige Federalist.

                              Nationalist Christian.

                              "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                              Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                              Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                              Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                              Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                              Justice for Matthew Perna!

                              Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                I agree with Roger Olson that nationalism is incompatible with Christianity.

                                https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogere...d-nationalism/

                                I don't think protectionism is morally justifiable, either. An American is no more entitled to make a living than anybody else in the world.

                                (It's probably not a surprise that my online chess username is "Mennonite")
                                Interesting.

                                While I agree with his assessment of Calvinism, I part from him here.
                                Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                                Beige Federalist.

                                Nationalist Christian.

                                "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                                Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                                Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                                Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                                Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                                Justice for Matthew Perna!

                                Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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