Time To Smear Kavanaugh's Good Name...

[Cow Poke]

Plus there's the fact that there is literally no such thing as a "lie detector."

True, and somebody can surely believe something is true, even though it's not, but that would "pass" the "lie detector".

I come back to the case of the woman taking (6 days?) with her lawyers working through her thoughts before coming up with K as the guilty party. It's entirely possible after that "process", she believes it was him.

[DesertBerean]

It's worth noting that numerous studies on the frequency of false accusations of rape have found that about 2% of the time the accusation is provably false and about a further ~8% of the time the police are reasonably sure it's false but can't prove it to be so. What that tells us is that false accusations of rape are relatively rare and that ~90% of such accusations are credible.

Personally after reviewing all the public information in Kavanaugh's case, it is my view that all three women's claims are credible and consistent with known background information about Kavanaugh's general conduct in high school. I believe all 3 of the women. Kavanaugh also seems to have a tendency towards regular lying and seems to have come close to perjury in multiple instances as a result, and his own claims about his conduct in high school are openly contradicted by many other sources including friends of his, so I do not find him in any way to be a credible witness.

EDITED TO ADD: Wikipedia is not to be more than just a springboard to other sources whether valid or not.


While I agree that the overwhelming majority of rape charges are true, these observations about FALSE claims being PROVABLE isn't the same thing. My anger with Feinstein is about her dragging this unexamined, unaddressed charge into an open congressional hearing. Her conduct in the past decade has concerned me and this is just another piece of it.

I do consider those hearings as tainted by malicious conduct ever since I followed Bork's. In addition to that malice that I expected, I find Feinstein's conduct almost criminal.

[Cow Poke]

It's worth noting that numerous studies on the frequency of false accusations of rape have found that about 2% of the time the accusation is provably false and about a further ~8% of the time the police are reasonably sure it's false but can't prove it to be so. What that tells us is that false accusations of rape are relatively rare and that ~90% of such accusations are credible.

Personally after reviewing all the public information in Kavanaugh's case, it is my view that all three women's claims are credible and consistent with known background information about Kavanaugh's general conduct in high school. I believe all 3 of the women. Kavanaugh also seems to have a tendency towards regular lying and seems to have come close to perjury in multiple instances as a result, and his own claims about his conduct in high school are openly contradicted by many other sources including friends of his, so I do not find him in any way to be a credible witness.

Here is all the proof you need not to believe the women.

[Cow Poke]

While I agree that the overwhelming majority of rape charges are true, these observations about FALSE claims being PROVABLE isn't the same thing. My anger with Feinstein is about her dragging this unexamined, unaddressed charge into an open congressional hearing. Her conduct in the past decade has concerned me and this is just another piece of it.

I do consider those hearings as tainted by malicious conduct ever since I followed Bork's. In addition to that malice that I expected, I find Feinstein's conduct almost criminal.

It would have been her proper duty to bring these charges privately to the committee for investigation to see whether there is any merit. If they believed there was merit, they could bring the accused in privately and give him an opportunity to withdraw.

That is WAY too civil for today's hate-filled polarized atmosphere. This is the politics of personal destruction that Hillary claimed to hate, while proceeding to perfect.

[DesertBerean]

Here is all the proof you need not to believe the women.

Right?

[Mountain Man]

The affidavits are intended to attest to when Ford originally reported her claims. The purpose is not to say "it happened," but rather to attest to the timing of her making the claims. As such, while it may be hearsay about the events reported, it is direct witness testimony about when she made her claims.



If you read the reports, apparently her husband testifies that she named him in his affidavit. At least, that's how I read the reports. I cannot find the actual affidavit.

Ford's husband's claim years later contradicts the contemporaneous evidence of the therapist's notes.

[NorrinRadd]

Assuming it's true that the hired-gun lawyer will be working only for the GOP, is there any reason the Dems can't hire one of their own -- presumably also a woman -- to handle the Kavanaugh portion of the hearing?

[Cow Poke]

Assuming it's true that the hired-gun lawyer will be working only for the GOP, is there any reason the Dems can't hire one of their own -- presumably also a woman -- to handle the Kavanaugh portion of the hearing?

I would think that would only be fair, assuming she doesn't have an axe to grind - like ... Gloria Allred?

[Mountain Man]

It's worth noting that numerous studies on the frequency of false accusations of rape have found that about 2% of the time the accusation is provably false and about a further ~8% of the time the police are reasonably sure it's false but can't prove it to be so. What that tells us is that false accusations of rape are relatively rare and that ~90% of such accusations are credible.

Personally after reviewing all the public information in Kavanaugh's case, it is my view that all three women's claims are credible and consistent with known background information about Kavanaugh's general conduct in high school. I believe all 3 of the women. Kavanaugh also seems to have a tendency towards regular lying and seems to have come close to perjury in multiple instances as a result, and his own claims about his conduct in high school are openly contradicted by many other sources including friends of his, so I do not find him in any way to be a credible witness.

This is one of those times when I suspect you're just trolling us.

[carpedm9587]

More precisely, in the Garland case the argument was, "PRESIDENTIAL election coming." The Republicans were essentially • Edited by a Moderator • the Democrats with Creepy Uncle Joe's own demands from years earlier.

I see no difference. The president nominates. The Senate confirms. BOTH are needed to put someone on SCOTUS. I see no reason so hold the position "the will of the people" for a presidential election but withhold it for a Senate election. Republicans are being inconsistent. The issue either applies to both - or it should apply to neither. Biden's comments are essentially irrelevant to that issue.

[Mountain Man]

Trump in his press conference said something to the effect of "Today's Democrats would vote against George Washington if I nominated him, so their opinions really don't matter." Democrats naturally took to Twitter to denounce George Washington as a white racist patriarchal slave owner, thus proving Trump's point.

I keep saying it, but you can't make this up!



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[seer]

Number four:

Senate probing new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...anaugh-n913581

[carpedm9587]

Number four:

Senate probing new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...anaugh-n913581

So how many allegations does it take before people begin to consider the possibility that there may be an issue here...?

[Starlight]

Number four:

Senate probing new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...anaugh-n913581

This one is anonymous though, so it makes it difficult to investigate further. Given the threats Professor Ford has received, it's understandable why other women would not want to put themselves and their families through a similar ordeal. This is yet another reason the FBI should be asked to investigate these accusations, as it would allow women like this who have testimony to give but who do not want to become public figures to share their accounts of Kavanaugh's behavior with the FBI in person and have the FBI be able to assess their background and credibility while they remained anonymous to the public at large.

It is interesting in this case that the woman sent the letter to a Republican congressman... presumably that indicates the woman herself is a Republican? The behavioral pattern from Kavanaugh she describes - him becoming physically and sexually aggressive when drunk - fits well though with that recounted from other sources and attested to by Kavanaugh's roommate.

[Mountain Man]

So how many allegations does it take before people begin to consider the possibility that there may be an issue here...?

All it takes is one credible, independently corroborated accusation. Let me know when that happens.