DeSantis Uses Racist Dog Whistle...

[oxmixmudd]

"It's a conspiracy, I tells ya! "

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You can play your games all you want mm, it doesn't change a thing. Why do you think many derogatory pictures of Obama show him as ... a monkey. One night in a restruant in Baltimore a very racist waiter from Argentina was telling us all about how bad it gets when "the monkeys" all come in, nodding to a black couple a few rows down. I never ate there again. Ive lived a lot of my life in the south. The racism in the Florida panhandle and places like mims is rampant and this term is the current way to wink wink nod.nod signal your racist collegues.

You could grow up and learn something here, but you won't.

If DeSantis didn't know what he was doing when he said that, then hed better get it figured out and fast.

But I doubt he's ignorant of what he did knowing what I know about this sort of thing.

Jim

[oxmixmudd]

"It's a conspiracy, I tells ya! "

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You can play your games all you want mm, it doesn't change a thing. Why do you think many derogatory pictures of Obama show him as ... a monkey. One night in a restruant in Baltimore a very racist waiter from Argentina was telling us all about how bad it gets when "the monkeys" all come in, nodding to a black couple a few rows down. I never ate there again. Ive lived a lot of my life in the south. The racism in the Florida panhandle and places like mims is rampant and this term is the current way to wink wink nod.nod signal your racist collegues.

You could grow up and learn something here, but you won't.

If DeSantis didn't know what he was doing when he said that, then hed better get it figured out and fast.

But I doubt he's ignorant of what he did knowing what I know about this sort of thing.

Jim

Oh wait, this just in: DeSantis moderated a blatantly racist Facebook page.

While that might not prove he is racist, it means the speculation he did not know what the phrase meant is bull cocky.

Which in turn means the man's a racist, plain and simple.

Jim

[NorrinRadd]

Oh wait, this just in: DeSantis moderated a blatantly racist Facebook page.

While that might not prove he is racist, it means the speculation he did not know what the phrase meant is bull cocky.

Which in turn means the man's a racist, plain and simple.

Jim

Do you have documentation for that (Facebook page), or is it just bullsh... I mean, "fake news."

[rogue06]

You can play your games all you want mm, it doesn't change a thing. Why do you think many derogatory pictures of Obama show him as ... a monkey.

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[Roy]

Nonsense, it is a perfectly race neutral term.

Then cite a case where it was used where race was not involved. In fact, I defy you or anyone else defending DeSantis to cite any usage of it other than the DeSantis one.

[NorrinRadd]

Then cite a case where it was used where race was not involved. In fact, I defy you or anyone else defending DeSantis to cite any usage of it other than the DeSantis one.

I have heard the expression "Don't monkey around" literally hundreds of times, maybe thousands. Around here, it only means, "Don't act like an idiot."

Dozens of times, on observing some feckless boob fumbling at a task, my dad would say, "He's goin' at it like a monkey screwin' a football."

[NorrinRadd]

And yeah, only someone who slept through the Bush43 years would think monkey-memes were automatically racist.

[Mountain Man]

Now this is interesting, Gillum says we need to bring back the institution of slavery in order for his "Medicare for all" plan to work:

"...we would have to do it as a confederation of states. We could not do it by ourselves solely here in the state of Florida."
https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...ion-of-states/

A "confederation of states", huh? And we all know what the Confederate States of America believed in, don't we? "Confederation of states" is just a code word for chatel slavery.



Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but this is the same kind of logic that liberals are using to claim that DeSantis' use of "monkey" is a racist code word.

[Roy]

I have heard the expression "Don't monkey around" literally hundreds of times, maybe thousands. Around here, it only means, "Don't act like an idiot."

So have I. But I have never heard the phrase "monkey it/this up" prior to seeing this thread. Nor apparently has Google.

[Mountain Man]

Then cite a case where ["monkey"] was used where race was not involved. In fact, I defy you or anyone else defending DeSantis to cite any usage of it other than the DeSantis one.

Really? You've never heard the phrase "monkeying around"? Or "more fun than a barrel of monkeys"? What about "This job is so easy, even a trained monkey could do it"? "Clever as a cartload of monkeys"? "Monkey suit"? How about ?

None of these phrases have a racist connotation. At all.

[Roy]

Then cite a case where it ["monkey this up"] was used where race was not involved. In fact, I defy you or anyone else defending DeSantis to cite any usage of it other than the DeSantis one.

Really? You've never heard the phrase "monkeying around"? Or "more fun than a barrel of monkeys"? What about "This job is so easy, even a trained monkey could do it"? "Clever as a cartload of monkeys"? "Monkey suit"? How about ?

None of these phrases have a racist connotation. At all.

None of the those phrases are the one used by DeSantis, which was "monkey this up", not just "monkey".

Phrases such as "brass monkey", "powder monkey" and "monkey wrench" not having racist connotations doesn't whitewash the racist connotations of other phrases such as "porch monkey" and "banana-eating jungle monkey".

Again, I defy you or anyone else defending DeSantis to cite any usage of "monkey this up" other than the DeSantis one.

[oxmixmudd]

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You are clueless on this rogue. Depicting George Bush as a Monkey carries NO racist overtones. Bush is white. They are derogatory - yes. Racist no!

It's as if you skipped US history from the end of the Civil war to the present. Are you really that ignorant of how the Black people in this country have been maligned and oppressed over the last 100+ years? It boggles the mind. Shall we start with Jim Crow, or the carpet baggers, or the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, or "separate but equal". Shall we go over lynchings and stereo typing? And last but not least, do you need a list of perfect normal words that have been co-opted to mean racist and derogatory things when directed and people of African descent in this country?

And do you think for one minute a black person doesn't feel it in the gut when a white person uses those terms in public? Especially a white leader, a man going for guvna in a Southern state? (yes, I know Florida is mostly transplanted northerners in Central and Sourthern Fl, but I'll never forget the night I went to a movie in Mims and it was mostly full and a Black couple came in late and virtually the entire theatre mocked them as they could not find a seat with a great big sarcastic 'sigh' as the turned and left. My wife and I just simply couldn't believe what we just saw and heard.)

I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of kindergartners about why its not nice to make fun of the little kid that has a lisp.

For pity sake, you are an intelligent educated man. Why are you so clueless on this?


Jim

[carpedm9587]

If you had followed the conversation, you would have seen that DeSantis was referring to political ideologies and not any particular person. To try and connect his use of the word "monkey" to the deliberately derogatory "porch monkey" is as big a stretch as claiming that our country wasn't divided during the Civil War because the Union loyalists who stayed in Washington instead of fleeing south tended to agree on political issues.

I have read the context. I stand by my observation. To use the term "monkey" in reference to something related to a black man (in this case, his political ideology) is to open yourself to exactly the kind of criticism he is receiving. It is as politically stupid as "deplorables" was. The man is either racist (which I tend to doubt - there is nothing in his history that I have found to suggest this) or he was incredibly sloppy and politically stupid.

As for the latter, I have no idea where THAT argument came from. It certainly doesn't even begin to resemble what I said in the other thread.

[oxmixmudd]

Now this is interesting, Gillum says we need to bring back the institution of slavery in order for his "Medicare for all" plan to work:

"...we would have to do it as a confederation of states. We could not do it by ourselves solely here in the state of Florida."
https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...ion-of-states/

A "confederation of states", huh? And we all know what the Confederate States of America believed in, don't we? "Confederation of states" is just a code word for chatel slavery.



Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but this is the same kind of logic that liberals are using to claim that DeSantis' use of "monkey" is a racist code word.

You too are clueless MM.

You do realize that it's people being clueless about this like you and others are being are that enables and continues to foster the racial divide in the county - right? So why don't you go ask your black friends what they thought when they heard this phrase, how they took it. And why they took it the way they did.



Jim

[carpedm9587]

So Democrats think of blacks as monkeys.

This is nothing new.