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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAnd that would explain Trump's terror surrounding the investigation, his deference to putin, and his current attack on the security clearances of officials that voiced support for the investigation and criticism of himself.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIf we ignore the total and complete lack of evidence of any kind of conspiracy, it all makes sense.
"That just proves a cover-up!"Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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And before our resident liberals try to dismiss Burr's claims because he's a Republican, Democrat Senator Mark Warner said essentially the same thing:
"This is one where there is no Democratic or Republican answer since clearly the goal of our adversaries was not to favor one party over the other. It was to wreak havoc and split divisions."
https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...vor-any-party/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIf we ignore the total and complete lack of evidence of any kind of conspiracy, it all makes sense.
Trump's current attack on those investigating the issue through the removal of security clearances also stands out as an unprecedented abuse of presidential power for personal revenge and gain. It is the sort of things dictators do when they feel threatened.
But: to say there is insufficient evidence to bring formal charges against Donald Trump himself would be an accurate statement.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 08-18-2018, 03:54 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostTo a conspiracy nut, the lack of evidence is the most convincing evidence of all.
"That just proves a cover-up!"
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post(Associated Press) Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr said there is no factual evidence today that weve received on collusion or conspiracy between Russia and President Donald Trumps campaign.
https://apnews.com/a968f26df3a64667afe108107daebc4d
2) "If it's what you say it is, I love it." Trump junior after being told by Russian operatives they had dirt on Clinton that they would exchange for getting rid of the magnisky act, and then shortly thereafter met with the Russian operatives in Trump Tower to seal the deal.
That in itself is collusion with a foriegn adversary! It may not rise to an act of conspiracy, so some say, but as far as I'm concerned, of course it is conspiracy, a conspiracy with Russia in order to help Trump become President. And it seems to have worked. Besides that, Trump has been laundering money for the Russian Mafia, which is nothing other than the Russian government, for decades now and acts as if he knows nothing about it. You can bet your bottom dollar that there is a whole lot more than the alleged collusion and obstruction of justice that Trump is desperately in fear of being exposed.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostTo say there is no evidence of a conspiracy is to be dishonest or ignorant. Donald Trump publicly asking the Russians to try to find the missing Hillary emails and them responding by hacking into the DNC email server is evidence of a conspiracy.
Trump Jr. Meeting with the Russian Lawyer/Spy to get dirt on Hillary is evidence of a conspiracy.
Trump Jr. seeking a back-channel to the Kremlin is evidence of a conspiracy.Manafort's role in the campaign and his deep connections to Russia are extremely suspicious.
His role in the campaign was minimal. And his dealings with Russia were not illegal nor were they integral to Trump.
Donald Trump's deference to Putin is evidence He is compromised in some way.
To date there have been indictments against:
What were the indictments exactly? And where are the "connections" to the election outside of fanciful speculations?
Trump's current attack on those investigating the issue through the removal of security clearances also stands out as an unprecedented abuse of presidential power for personal revenge and gain. It is the sort of things dictators do when they feel threatened.
But: to say there is insufficient evidence to bring formal charges against Donald Trump himself would be an accurate statement.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by JimL View Post1) ..., but as far as I'm concerned, of course it is conspiracy,...That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostTo say there is no evidence of a conspiracy is to be dishonest or ignorant.
Granted, I don't think either of them are the most trustworthy of characters, but I'm inclined to take their word on the matter over yours, especially since they can both be considered hostile witnesses -- one is a "never-Trump" Republican and the other is a Democrat, so they have no reason to lie about this. And considering they've been intensely investigating this matter for some time, your charge of "ignorant" isn't going to stick, either.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat sort of dismissal only feeds the fire of polarization that need instead to be put out. The issues with Trump are not the fantasies of some mysterious "Q" like Trump allies himself with, but rather a simple reality.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post...as far as I'm concerned, of course it is conspiracy, a conspiracy with Russia in order to help Trump become President.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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