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I don't know how true it is but there were supposedly a lot of women who voted for JFK primarily because they loved his hair
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI don't know how true it is but there were supposedly a lot of women who voted for JFK primarily because they loved his hairThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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And that he and Jackie were such a cute couple.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUnfortunately, yes. Way too many people cast their vote for ignorant or frivolous (i.e., gotta vote for the woman because woman or man because man) reasons to make it likely that the best person will win. It would be nice if there were an impartial way of weeding out those votes, but there isn't.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostPracticality comes first of course, but it seems a good thing to work towards none the less. Seems like it would force jurisdictions to get things sorted out that should have been sorted out to begin with."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Roy View Post...some of their voters, if they have to in order to get re-elected, if they care about being re-elected.
Also, if you really represent selectively, you will almost certainly cross the line to get yourself censored or even impeached."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostGood way to lose an incumbent advantage, that. Unlike a proportional system, there's incentive to aid both your base and those who voted against - if you pander too strongly to the base you lose the advantage of being an incumbent unless you are in a district that is skewed to heck - and even then, one wrong headline can hurt you badly come primary season.
Also, if you really represent selectively, you will almost certainly cross the line to get yourself censored or even impeached.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI don't think anything Roy said indicated that a politician would "pander too strongly to the base".... politicians have opposition research staff, pollsters, focus groups.... many of them will do whatever it takes to pander to whoever is required to keep their butts in office."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIt sounded to me that he was saying representatives only really represent those who voted for them.
Question: In US local elections, do incumbents face opponents from within their own party? I know the sitting president is doesn't have to fight a primary if he's seeking a second term - is that true for other elections?Last edited by Roy; 07-12-2018, 11:57 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIt sounded to me that he was saying representatives only really represent those who voted for them.
But we'll let him address that.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostYou need more cynicism. I was saying they don't always even do that.
Question: In US local elections, do incumbents face opponents from within their own party? I know the sitting president is doesn't have to fight a primary if he's seeking a second term - is that true for other elections?
A president - especially an unpopular one - can also face a primary fight when seeking another term, but it's rare. Gerald Ford faced a primary fight in 1976 (though he was also unusual in that he wasn't elected to the job in the first place).Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Roy View PostYou need more cynicism. I was saying they don't always even do that.
Question: In US local elections, do incumbents face opponents from within their own party? I know the sitting president is doesn't have to fight a primary if he's seeking a second term - is that true for other elections?
But I think what you're asking is if there's no opposition in the primary, does the primary even occur? The answer is yes, it does*. Most times multiple offices are up for election and the primary process continues - and the unopposed candidate will be on the ballot. The candidate generally will not campaign as a primary candidate but will begin the electoral campaign. In the primary, an unopposed candidate will usually win - a write in campaign is always a possibility but they are very rarely successful.
In an given office, it just depends on whether or not multiple candidates choose to run in the primary for their party and can meet eligibility requirements.
Finally, you're mistaken on one point. Sitting presidents do have to win their party's nomination in the primaries when running for re-election - and while rare, there have been some sitting presidents that didn't actually get that nomination. It hasn't happened in my lifetime - although both Ford and Carter came close as I recall.
* Please tell me no one saw that!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIn primaries, yes (there are three different primary systems not counting caucus). In actual elections, no - well, not usually. IF a candidate changed parties, it could happen but I've never heard of a case.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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