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Trump's dictator envy
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I'm saying he wishes for more control and likes the adoration dictators receive, but doesn't actually have plans to become a dictator."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSorry charles, but your blatant hypocrisy is showing. You didn't care a whit about this when Obama was doing the same thing but now suddenly seek to twist this into being all Trump's fault.
It seems you are willing to go quite far in order to avoid the issue. I think it is fair for me to repeat my original point so we can get back on track:
If I remember correctly Trump separated children from their parents without a plan on how to reunite them. The consequence could be that some children will never be reunited with their parents. How many would have voted for him knowing this? I am afraid that quite many of his supporters actually would and will continue to do so.
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Originally posted by myth View PostI'm saying he wishes for more control and likes the adoration dictators receive, but doesn't actually have plans to become a dictator.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, let me get this staight, you think Trump wants to be dictator, that he likes the idea, but that he doesn't have any plans to become one?
I'm talking about a sliding scale with US President on one end, and Dictator on the other. I'm saying Trump wishes his position were further toward the Dictator end of the scale, but not all the way to the Dictator end. This is regarding power and control.
I'm even more confident that Trump's major fixation is the adoration aspect of dictatorship. He's a narcissist at heart, and he wants to be worshiped. I think he has enough sense (barely) to know that dictator == bad, but not such much with regard to related sentiments."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMaybe you should start now.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWe are a representative democracy and you can call it a republic if you want. They're the same thing. I understand some of you have a problem understanding that, or admitting to it for some reason, but thems the facts.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, let me get this staight, you think Trump wants to be dictator, that he likes the idea, but that he doesn't have any plans to become one?
He's drifting towards dictatorship simply because he loves all the ideas associated with it - obedience to his whims, adulation from the TV talking heads, praise from the masses, etc."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostExcept that Trump's contempt for the democratic processes and political institutions indicates otherwise."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI don't think he understands the basics of the reasons for them. Like, if a reporter actually asked him to give a 5-sentence explanation of why dictatorships are bad and democracies are good, he might be able to do it (although he'd inevitably wander off-topic due to his senility) but it would be all new thoughts for him. He'd learn from his own explanation as he thought through it to tell the reporter about it, because he seems to have literally no existing understanding of what it is that makes dictatorships bad and democracies good.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'd agree with that assessment. I'd shorten the last sentence to simply that Trump doesn't have an plans, for anything, period, because he's a creature of the 24 hr news cycle and doesn't think past it.
He's drifting towards dictatorship simply because he loves all the ideas associated with it - obedience to his whims, adulation from the TV talking heads, praise from the masses, etc.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostExcept that Trump's contempt for the democratic processes and political institutions indicates otherwise.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostHe's drifting towards dictatorship simply because he loves all the ideas associated with it - obedience to his whims, adulation from the TV talking heads, praise from the masses, etc.
Thanks. You might also want to include your definition of 'adulation'.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostCan you please supply a list of these TV talking heads?
Thanks. You might also want to include your definition of 'adulation'.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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