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Originally posted by Sparko View Postok. But the fact remains that an artist and his art is exempt from the CRA 1964, correct? Commissioned art is not a "public accommodation" as Tassy keeps claiming.
*there is at least one instance of a concurrence in a complicated case eventually becoming precedent, but for this to be like that it needs further court rulings citing the concurrence over the majority.
At this point the arguments over what is or is not artistry are still largely theoretical.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf a chef were asked for a special creation they could refuse. They serve the exact same meal to everyone so they can't refuse anyone. If wedding cake makers made the same exact cake for everyone they could not refuse to sell one for a gay wedding. But he was asked to create and design a custom cake.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, you don't go around calling people names, do you CP?
And I wasn't actually calling you a name - "stupidity personified" is a trait. But, you wouldn't know that, cause... um..... you're apparently not smart enough to know the difference.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMalarkey. The baker makes wedding cakes and he refused to make one for a gay couple because he is biggoted against gay people.
[quote It's as simple as that.[/quote]
Yup - as simple as he doesn't support gay weddings, but HAS served, will serve, and continues to serve gay people.
So, lemme guess, you're next gonna try that "so what if black couples" crap....
What if he didn't think black couples should be married, or interacial couples should be married? You can and do come up with as many ridiculous excuses, loopholes, as you want, but they're simply loopholes meant to skirt the original intent of anti-discrimination laws.
You're wrong, Jim! R - O - N - GGGGGGGGThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI never said I don't, Jim. I said I RARELY do. You're a special case.
And I wasn't actually calling you a name - "stupidity personified" is a trait. But, you wouldn't know that, cause... um..... you're apparently not smart enough to know the difference.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, then if the baker were against interacial marriage, then it would be okay for him to refuse to serve an interacial couple as well, correct?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHe didn't refuse to serve a gay couple. He refused to make a cake for a gay wedding. He served plenty of gay customers. he would have made them another cake.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, then if the baker were against interacial marriage, then it would be okay for him to refuse to serve an interacial couple as well, correct?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostInterracial. Okay, there you go, now you can answer.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI see, so, along with knowing you're wrong,
you're a liar as well.
No surprise there, pastor!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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