Ireland legalizes the killing of the unborn

[Roy]

It's actually a very complicated issue, as noted in this NYTimes article.

Welfare has often been accused of encouraging poor unwed mothers to have more babies because they get additional funds for additional children.
Some states attempt to limit that, to discourage additional children born into poverty families.
It is suspected that this would increase the abortion rate, as pregnancies would still occur, but no additional funding would be available.

So, it's complicated.

It looks complicated. That in itself might have an effect if funding was uncertain.

[Mountain Man]

Just to bury Dimbulb and Ignorant Roy a little deeper using a source that Dimbulb first appealed to...

Source: Quora.com

https://www.quora.com/According-to-p...uman-skin-cell

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Seriously, you guys are coming across as utter morons for even disputing this.

[Cow Poke]

It looks complicated. That in itself might have an effect if funding was uncertain.

It's a classic case of the law of unintended consequences - if you offer some help to get somebody out of an immediate and temporary bind, and they discover they can get more money by intensifying the problem... plus, our government is notorious for assuming that "if we do X", the affect will be "Y", when the average person can easily game the system.

[Roy]

Seriously, you guys are coming across as utter morons for even disputing this.

So either (i) we're utter morons, and/or (ii) you don't understand what we're saying. Given the biological incompetence of your claims, your inability with logic and your recent inability to understand what you are yourself saying, let alone what anyone else is, I'm sufficiently confident that anyone whose opinion matters (and most whose doesn't) will correctly conclude (ii).

[Roy]

It's a classic case of the law of unintended consequences - if you offer some help to get somebody out of an immediate and temporary bind, and they discover they can get more money by intensifying the problem... plus, our government is notorious for assuming that "if we do X", the affect will be "Y", when the average person can easily game the system.

Yeah - and it's exacerbated by some people's greed and uncaringness. We've had occasional problems in the UK with people trying to claim child benefit for children who have left home/died/never existed/been passed around multiple 'parents'.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah - and it's exacerbated by some people's greed and uncaringness. We've had occasional problems in the UK with people trying to claim child benefit for children who have left home/died/never existed/been passed around multiple 'parents'.

Yes sir, and it's often portrayed as a 'minorities' problem, but if I remember correctly, it's pretty much an "equal opportunity abuse" situation.

[lilpixieofterror]

No.

[lilpixieofterror]

Thing is, I didn't actually get any details wrong. I used the term "life", which scientifically speaking has a fairly well-defined meaning and is used interchangeably with the terms "life-form" and "organism". It's also a fact that there is a clear distinction between something being "alive" and meeting the scientific definition of "life". Your skin cells are alive, at least in their early stage, but they are not life since they do not have the attributes that science uses to describe life (they don't organize, adapt, self-sustain, metabolize, respond to stimuli, etc.). A skin cell is part of an organism, but it is not an organism in and of itself.

Dimbulb claims to have a science degree, so either he knows this and is trying to score rhetorical points by playing dumb, or his degree is only suitable for lining the bottom of a bird cage.

[One Bad Pig]

His thesis is certainly not in the field of psychology - but it's not in biology either.

[Roy]

His thesis is certainly not in the field of psychology - but it's not in biology either.

I have no idea what field starlight studied, but I do know he has more than one degree. Not that it matters, since this is high-school material.

[Cow Poke]

I have no idea what field starlight studied, but I do know he has more than one degree.

You know that he SAYS he has more than one degree.

[Bill the Cat]

... Not that it matters, since this is high-school material.

Exactly right. The biological difference between a self-contained and self-directing organism and a simple specialized part of that organism is basic Bio 101.

[Roy]

You know that he SAYS he has more than one degree.

Hmmm... true. I believe him though.

[stfoskey15]

It's actually a very complicated issue, as noted in this NYTimes article.

Welfare has often been accused of encouraging poor unwed mothers to have more babies because they get additional funds for additional children.
Some states attempt to limit that, to discourage additional children born into poverty families.
It is suspected that this would increase the abortion rate, as pregnancies would still occur, but no additional funding would be available.

So, it's complicated.

Where's the NYTimes article? I just see something from NCSL.

[Cow Poke]

Where's the NYTimes article? I just see something from NCSL.

DRAT, I'll find it when I get back from court.