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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah - I've been through these...as well as through the original speeches. The first one is a disingenuous removal the references from context, most of which were either self-deprecating, collective references (e.g., my administration), or simply innocuous (counting such things as "I am here to address you").
The second makes the mistake of number of instances versus length of references. It's apples and oranges. You also can pick one speech from each person and end up making Obama look good or Trump look bad. Try looking over the breadth of their speeches to see the pattern.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's some industrial grade spin there, carpe.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThose are just examples not arguments!
- In Twelve-Minute Speech to America on Oregon Mass Shooting, Obama Refers to Himself 28 Times
- President Barack Obama used the funeral for Hawaii senator Daniel Inouye to talk about himself. In the short 1,600 word speech, Obama used the word "my" 21 times, "me" 12 times, and "I" 30 times.
- Watch: Obama name-drops himself 76 times in gun speech
- Obama Mentions Himself 119 Times In Speech About Hillary
- Did he forget about the voters? Obama says the words 'I' and 'me' a total of 117 times in ONE speech
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWell thought-out response, MM...
Sorry to break it to you, but an "argument" that is essentially a hand-wave can be dismissed with a hand-wave.Last edited by Mountain Man; 06-19-2018, 08:21 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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