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Masculinity: A Mental Health Issue
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Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThat's just not true. Those words are not rendered "has had" or "have had" in any translation I can find, let alone all of them:
NIV: If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other
NKJV: If a man has two wives, one loved and the other unloved,
NLT: Suppose a man has two wives, but he loves one and not the other,
NASB: If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved,
CEB: Now suppose a man has
Nobody made anything up here. You are simply reading it how you want to read it.
Look. Nowhere in scripture does God condone plural marriage. Or same-gender marriage or sex. Or adultery. Or extra-marital sex. Why in the world would you think that this one passage would go against the very character of God as revealed in His word, when nowhere else in the entirety of the canon allows this behaviour?
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostGod, in the OT, is all like, "You want multiple wives? LOL ok. I don't even have to punish you for it."
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostWhich Bible scholar, and why should he be believed?
What difference does it make? I'm sure that no matter who's name I give you, you'll tell me he's just making it up. Or he's not a "real" scholar like Starlight.
You are going to believe what you want to believe, no matter what I say.
While you're reading scripture, go read Romans 1 in all your translations and then tell me if you get what's being said there.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostGod's punishment for polygamy was giving them multiple wives.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostNonsense, this is not saying that God is good with polygamy. Polygamy was widely practiced, but no where do we find the law of God condoning it.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostWhat difference does it make?
Your responses imply the latter.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNor is it condemned. God certainly seems good with it, since many of the OT patriarchs were polygamous.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI concede that she may not have made it up, but instead be believing something some-one else made up.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostLook. Nowhere in scripture does God condone plural marriage. ... Why in the world would you think that this one passage would go against the very character of God as revealed in His word, when nowhere else in the entirety of the canon allows this behaviour?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by seer View PostOh please Roy, the point is she did not make it up.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI guess you've never read Genesis 30, where your god supposedly grants the desires of both of Jacob's wives to bear children.
And, actually, some of the children were by handmaidens of each of the wives. Do you think that's "God's plan" for marriage or family?
Just because something happens in the Bible doesn't mean God intends for that to be a pattern.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThe difference between you actually having a biblical scholar's commentary vs you not having one.
Your responses imply the latter.
If you insist.
I actually have 2 commentaries. One is in a study Bible by Charles C. Ryrie. The other is a full commentary by John MacArthur.
So, now you've basically called me a liar twice.
Go ahead now and tell me my sources are useless. You wouldn't believe me if I told you God came down from heaven in the form of a man, lived, died in order to satisfy His own judgment on sin, raised Himself from the dead, rose back into heaven, and told me Himself that that's what that passage intends.
Oh, wait.......He did everything except tell me Himself what that passage intends. Instead he gave godly men with education and wisdom to do that.Last edited by mossrose; 05-02-2018, 03:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI guess you've never read Genesis 30, where your god supposedly grants the desires of both of Jacob's wives to bear children.
Jacob shouldn't have had two wives! You are so stupid with this!
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