Masculinity: A Mental Health Issue

[Cow Poke]

...we are also defending them because it is consual adult behavior and so none of your business....

Dadblamed consual behavior!

[seer]

Yes, well, we, that is most of us, have already been enlightened in both instances, and we are not only defending homosexuals because it is natural, we are also defending them because it is consensual adult behavior and so none of your business.

Hey gays can do what they want, but when you bring this these sexual practices into my son's class room (which actually happened and my son could not opt out without failing the year - actually two years) then I have a problem. And you still do not have an argument against human to animal sex.

That's one of the problems with religious beliefs, you can't seem to keep them to yourselves.

Jim, I'm a single Christian and have been celibate for many years. As I told you my wife died a number of years ago. I do have a lady friend, but sex is not an option for us since we are not married.

[mossrose]

Dadblamed consual behavior!

My 8 year old granddaughter can spell better than Jim.

[Cow Poke]

My 8 year old granddaughter can spell better than Jim.

And even add extra vowels for good measure!

[Starlight]

I do have to say this is the first time I've seen Trump accused of pedophilia. Was this just a "for good measure" inclusion, or is there actually anything to this allegation?

He's got links with Jeffrey Epstein of pedophilia-ring fame. Like Bill Clinton, Trump was friends with Epstein probably flew on his private jet and visited his island both of which were apparently full of underage girls. Since Clinton and Trump seem to like to have sex with anything that moves, things probably happened.

There was a lawsuit that was eventually dropped:

[seer]

He's got links with Jeffrey Epstein of pedophilia-ring fame. Like Bill Clinton, Trump was friends with Epstein probably flew on his private jet and visited his island both of which were apparently full of underage girls. Since Clinton and Trump seem to like to have sex with anything that moves, things probably happened.

Yes one of Stephen Hawking's haunts...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...nd-of-Sin.html

[JimL]

Hey gays can do what they want, but when you bring this these sexual practices into my son's class room (which actually happened and my son could not opt out without failing the year - actually two years) then I have a problem. And you still do not have an argument against human to animal sex.

Someone's practicing homosexuality in your sons class room? I hope you reported them. Anyway's seer, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. If your son is straight, then learning about homosexuals isn't going to make him become one. You know all about homosexuality, did it make you become a homosexual?

Jim, I'm a single Christian and have been celibate for many years. As I told you my wife died a number of years ago. I do have a lady friend, but sex is not an option for us since we are not married.

Sorry to hear that seer, but I don't see what that has to do with the quote it's in response to.

[Starlight]

If your son is straight, then learning about homosexuals isn't going to make him become one. You know all about homosexuality, did it make you become a homosexual?

There does seem to be a really strange fear among many conservatives that people learning about the existence of homosexuality will make them gay. I find that attitude really puzzling.

[JimL]

There does seem to be a really strange fear among many conservatives that people learning about the existence of homosexuality will make them gay. I find that attitude really puzzling.

It may be that they so fear that their own child might actually be gay, that for their own selfish reasons they want to repress their own kid from being their genuine selves.

[Tassman]

I do have to say this is the first time I've seen Trump accused of pedophilia. Was this just a "for good measure" inclusion, or is there actually anything to this allegation?

Trump is said to be guilty of the whole shebang of sexual abuses including paedophilia with IIRC a thirteen year girl at one of Jeffrey Epstein's orgies, which Trump apparently frequented on a regular basis.

[seer]

Someone's practicing homosexuality in your sons class room? I hope you reported them. Anyway's seer, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. If your son is straight, then learning about homosexuals isn't going to make him become one. You know all about homosexuality, did it make you become a homosexual?

That is not the point Jim, we do not need this immoral behavior being highlighted in the classroom, any more than we need to talk about sex with animals, or adultery, or orgies, golden showers,etc...

Sorry to hear that seer, but I don't see what that has to do with the quote it's in response to.

You suggested that I wasn't following my own standard.

[Cow Poke]

There does seem to be a really strange fear among many conservatives that people learning about the existence of homosexuality will make them gay. I find that attitude really puzzling.

This must come from your fear of conservatives, causing you to imagine all sorts of things. I don't find that puzzling at all.

[JimL]

That is not the point Jim, we do not need this immoral behavior being highlighted in the classroom, any more than we need to talk about sex with animals, or adultery, or orgies, golden showers,etc...

But you don't get to decide as christians what is or is not immoral for everybody else. You can believe homosexuality is immoral yourself, but you and your church are not the deciding factor when it comes to social policy. If you don't like it, if you're afraid that because he learns something about homosexuals your son will become gay or something, then take your kid out of public school. And btw, we don't teach beastiality, adultery, orgies or golden showers in school because right or wrong, those are simply things that people do, homosexuality is synonomous with ones personal being. Unless you've been living in a cave, or a church, you should know that by now.

You suggested that I wasn't following my own standard.

No, I suggested that as a christian you can't follow your own standard without trying at the same time to impose your standards on everyone else.

[seer]

But you don't get to decide as christians what is or is not immoral for everybody else. You can believe homosexuality is immoral yourself, but you and your church are not the deciding factor when it comes to social policy. If you don't like it, if you're afraid that because he learns something about homosexuals your son will become gay or something, then take your kid out of public school. And btw, we don't teach beastiality, adultery, orgies or golden showers in school because right or wrong, those are simply things that people do, homosexuality is synonomous with ones personal being. Unless you've been living in a cave, or a church, you should know that by now.

Nonsense Jim, men having sex with men is a behavior just like all the other behaviors. And is no more or less synonymous with one's personal being than being a peodphile is. And since I help fund these public schools with my tax dollars I get to influence the system just like every other citizen.

No, I suggested that as a christian you can't follow your own standard without trying at the same time to impose your standards on everyone else.

Everybody attempts to impose their belief on others, that is the basis of all law.

[JimL]

Nonsense Jim, men having sex with men is a behavior just like all the other behaviors. And is no more or less synonymous with one's personal being than being a peodphile is.

That's your opinion seer, but as a society we have evolved because we have learned otherwise. There is really only one problem though, it's that some people just can't seem to mind their own business, they think that they are god and the judge of all men.

And since I help fund these public schools with my tax dollars I get to influence the system just like every other citizen.

Of course you get a voice, but you don't get the final say. And btw, our tax dollars go to many things that we each individually may or may not agree with, but again we don't as individuals get the final say, that's why we vote.

Everybody attempts to impose their belief on others, that is the basis of all law.

Right, you lose!