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  • Originally posted by thewriteranon View Post
    lol wut.

    Also Pildes is trying to argue that Morrison restricts the President's ability shut an individual investigation down based on ruling that the President cannot fire the Independent Counsel at-will, which is a stupid argument. My casebook glosses over the arguments about the extant to which a President can interfere in the investigation of an Independent Counsel without touching the hiring-and-firing of said counsel, but he is specifically trying to use Morrison's hiring-and-firing power determination to make his point, which is at minimum missing several crucial steps in his logic.
    Asserting it to be a stupid argument isn't much of an argument in itself. Hope you do better than that in class.
    Also, Morrison was a bad decision anyway. See also Scalia's dissent.
    Oh okay, I guess if you say so.
    This counts as studying for my LegReg final.

    And as pointed out, Dershowitz is unabashedly to the left to the left, as are about 98% of the law profs here.
    I don't care what his ideology is, or what he says it is, he's a friend of Trumps, and he's been defending him at every turn since the beginning of this investigation.

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    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      I forgot!

      I do have to respect Dershowitz for being unbiased enough to tell it like it is without regard to likes, or dislikes or political view. He would be one of the few people I would take seriously if he said that Trump was in trouble.
      Yeah, but thats only because you agree with him! You're too funny Sparko.

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Asserting it to be a stupid argument isn't much of an argument in itself. Hope you do better than that in class.

          Oh okay, I guess if you say so.

          I don't care what his ideology is, or what he says it is, he's a friend of Trumps, and he's been defending him at every turn since the beginning of this investigation.
          If it's a bad argument, then he needs to adjust his argument to actually address interference instead of trying to use ruling regarding appointment and removal. He could just, you know, use another part of Morrison or not use Morrison at all. This part of Morrison concerns, specifically, the removal of the Independent Counsel and whether the IC is an "inferior officer." And yes, the Court constantly splits these kind of hairs. This is how they went about distinguishing Morrison from Humphrey's Executor and Bowsher to begin with. We spent about ten to twenty minutes distinguishing Morrison from Bowsher in review because one of my classmates was hung up on the fact that they are seen to comport with each other based on what to a normal person would look like minutiae.

          It's an unfinished article. It's the same sort of thing I wrote for the first draft of my open memo because I just didn't have the time to flesh my research out.

          ETA: note here I'm not actually taking a position on whether Dershowitz is right or wrong in his analysis of the President's ability to shut down an investigation. I haven't read any of Dershowitz's matter. I also note that it might be possible to use Morrison to argue against Presidential ability here, just not based on the explicit argument in the article which cites the decision on IC appointment and removal. My casebook even cites that there has been legal scholarship both ways on how Morrison affects investigations, but it doesn't give anything other that. I'm neutral since I don't have the full opinion in front of me and I don't have time to read it on Lexis. I don't like Morrison, but that doesn't mean that the Court wouldn't rely on it b/c stare decisis and all.
          Last edited by thewriteranon; 12-04-2017, 03:40 PM.

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Yeah, but thats only because you agree with him! You're too funny Sparko.
            dumbass. I just said he would be one of the few who I would listen to if he did tell me Trump was in trouble. Despite him being a liberal. I trust him to be unbiased enough to take him seriously.

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            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Asserting it to be a stupid argument isn't much of an argument in itself. Hope you do better than that in class.

              Oh okay, I guess if you say so.

              I don't care what his ideology is, or what he says it is, he's a friend of Trumps, and he's been defending him at every turn since the beginning of this investigation.
              Please show where anyone who would know (I am excluding idiots like you) that Dershowitz is a friend of Trumps. He says he dislikes the guy. He voted for Hillary.

              Is this another case of you accusing people of being a Trump supporter if they even say one nice thing about the guy or what he has done? Like you did with Cow Poke? Or do you have some actual evidence?

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              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                From the HDI report itself:

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]25200[/ATTACH]

                Socialist measures are used to determine "success"
                Er, so instead of answering the question as to how the HDI criteria of life expectancy, gdp per capita, and average education level, are "socialism" as you bizarrely claimed...

                ...you instead copy+paste a semi-illegible picture out of some report that mentioned disadvantaged groups. Wow. Why don't you just yell "squirrel!" and be done with it?
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Er, so instead of answering the question as to how the HDI criteria of life expectancy, gdp per capita, and average education level, are "socialism" as you bizarrely claimed...

                  ...you instead copy+paste a semi-illegible picture out of some report that mentioned disadvantaged groups. Wow. Why don't you just yell "squirrel!" and be done with it?
                  That's rogue06's job.

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                  • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    That's rogue06's job.





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                    glad to oblige

                    I'm always still in trouble again

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                    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Er, so instead of answering the question as to how the HDI criteria of life expectancy, gdp per capita, and average education level, are "socialism" as you bizarrely claimed...

                      ...you instead copy+paste a semi-illegible picture out of some report that mentioned disadvantaged groups. Wow. Why don't you just yell "squirrel!" and be done with it?
                      One would think that, given how much you like the HDI, you'd be familiar with the HDI report and recognize pictures therefrom.
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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        One would think that, given how much you like the HDI
                        I don't like the HDI. It's Tass's favorite measure. I prefer measures that include more variables and the HDI only measures 3 things.

                        you'd be familiar with the HDI report and recognize pictures therefrom.
                        New HDI reports come out every few years, and the 2016 one was 270 pages long with figures or tables on most pages, so your statement seems absurd. The extent of my own reading of them is that in a recent report I have read the introduction and summary and have browsed a few countries in the details section of the report.

                        Bill said in his post the picture was from an HDI report. Citing one of hundreds of pictures from a development report is irrelevant to the question of how HDI is calculated, which is like this:



                        I get that Bill's not going to post "Okay I admit that I am a total ignoramus who makes factually false and idiotic statements on a continuous basis and is rarely ever right about anything I say, and one of the more recent things I was totally wrong about was the wild claim that HDI is a measure of socialism, I apologize" just like you aren't likely to admit the same thing about yourself. But at least he could acknowledge that the HDI isn't a measure of socialism, and perhaps the idiots who amen'd his post could acknowledge that too.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          I don't like the HDI. It's Tass's favorite measure. I prefer measures that include more variables and the HDI only measures 3 things.

                          New HDI reports come out every few years, and the 2016 one was 270 pages long with figures or tables on most pages, so your statement seems absurd. The extent of my own reading of them is that in a recent report I have read the introduction and summary and have browsed a few countries in the details section of the report.
                          Huh. You insisted all the way back in August that you were very well read on these studies.
                          Bill said in his post the picture was from an HDI report. Citing one of hundreds of pictures from a development report is irrelevant to the question of how HDI is calculated, which is like this:



                          I get that Bill's not going to post "Okay I admit that I am a total ignoramus who makes factually false and idiotic statements on a continuous basis and is rarely ever right about anything I say, and one of the more recent things I was totally wrong about was the wild claim that HDI is a measure of socialism, I apologize" just like you aren't likely to admit the same thing about yourself. But at least he could acknowledge that the HDI isn't a measure of socialism, and perhaps the idiots who amen'd his post could acknowledge that too.
                          Why would Bill or I lie just to make you feel better?
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                          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            I don't like the HDI. It's Tass's favorite measure. I prefer measures that include more variables and the HDI only measures 3 things.

                            New HDI reports come out every few years, and the 2016 one was 270 pages long with figures or tables on most pages, so your statement seems absurd. The extent of my own reading of them is that in a recent report I have read the introduction and summary and have browsed a few countries in the details section of the report.

                            Bill said in his post the picture was from an HDI report. Citing one of hundreds of pictures from a development report is irrelevant to the question of how HDI is calculated, which is like this:



                            I get that Bill's not going to post "Okay I admit that I am a total ignoramus who makes factually false and idiotic statements on a continuous basis and is rarely ever right about anything I say, and one of the more recent things I was totally wrong about was the wild claim that HDI is a measure of socialism, I apologize" just like you aren't likely to admit the same thing about yourself. But at least he could acknowledge that the HDI isn't a measure of socialism, and perhaps the idiots who amen'd his post could acknowledge that too.
                            Woah! Do you have fever with those fits?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Huh. You insisted all the way back in August that you were very well read on these studies.
                              Different studies.

                              As I said before, HDI not my favorite metric.

                              Why would Bill or I lie just to make you feel better?
                              Nah, you'd just make false statements continually, but not for my benefit.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                dumbass. I just said he would be one of the few who I would listen to if he did tell me Trump was in trouble. Despite him being a liberal. I trust him to be unbiased enough to take him seriously.
                                Yeah, I know what you said Sparko. But you're only saying it because he agrees with you. You think he's unbiased because he agrees with you. Despite his being a liberal, you trust him enough to take him seriously because he agrees with you. He'd be one of the few who you'd listen to if he told you Trump was in trouble, because he's telling you that Trump is not in trouble. Hilarious!

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