Kevin Spacey's Complicated Gayness

[Cow Poke]

I don't know how much Family Guy, of all shows, ought to exactly be our litmus test or barometer of truth. If you've ever watched the show, it's sort of known for it's over-exaggerations, and playing with concepts that are incredibly disturbing in a light-hearted and acceptable way. I mean, one of the main characters on the show is a old man pedophile who gets away with implying that he has had or that he wants to have sex with children in every episode he shows up in. Another main character, one of the shows protagonists, is implied to have had nonconsensual sex a number of times with multiple people, and is heavily into all sorts of disturbing kinks. I doubt Seth MacFarlane knew that Kevin Spacey had made moves on a child. The naked boy running around in the clip is one of the main characters in the show, and he's often shown acting and doing things, especially sexual things, that adults do. I imagine it's just as likely, maybe more so, that if MacFarlane knew of any rumors about Spacey at all, it was probably rumors about him making sexual advances towards young men, not teenagers or children.

I am SO glad I don't watch this show!

I saw Seth MacFarlane on an episode of Shark Tank --- wow, he was a real jerk.

[Zymologist]

I am SO glad I don't watch this show!

I saw Seth MacFarlane on an episode of Shark Tank --- wow, he was a real jerk.

Seth MacFarlane isn't nearly as funny as he clearly thinks he is.

[Cow Poke]

Seth MacFarlane isn't nearly as funny as he clearly thinks he is.

That became obvious as the 'Sharks' were obviously getting really annoyed with him, and even hinted that he helped the guy NOT get a Shark Tank Deal.

[Adrift]

The point is that his proclivities were not secret. And one of his accusers was only fourteen at the time - do you think that was his first and only?

I have no idea, but then, I imagine neither does anyone else. Two others have come out and accused Spacey of groping them, but they were adult males when the incidences occurred. My only point is that, if you're using a Seth MacFarlane cartoon as your evidence that everyone knew that Kevin Spacey sexually assaulted children, then you might be jumping the gun. I think the most we can get out of the cartoon is that Kevin Spacey had a bit of a reputation for something sexual towards younger males. We can't determine much more from that from the cartoon, since, as I stated, Stewie is routinely treated as a character with adult sexual tendencies, and MacFarlane is well known for his use of exaggeration.

[Zymologist]

That became obvious as the 'Sharks' were obviously getting really annoyed with him, and even hinted that he helped the guy NOT get a Shark Tank Deal.

He seems to think he's super edgy, when in reality he says nothing edgy whatsoever. It's like someone making a public statement that condemns Nazism. Gee, how brave.

[Adrift]

I am SO glad I don't watch this show!

I saw Seth MacFarlane on an episode of Shark Tank --- wow, he was a real jerk.

Yeah, I can't stand his garbage. When the first couple of seasons of Family Guy first popped up as DVDs after the show was initially cancelled, I thought it was sort of funny, especially since I was raised in Pawtucket, RI, which he often makes mention of, but the type of jokes he makes are just in such bad taste, and are so unfunny and disturbing that I can't bring myself to watch anything he touches anymore. What's doubly sad for me is that some of my favorite actors and directors keep working with him, and I can't figure out why. So, for instance, Patrick Stewart has voiced a few characters in his shows, including as himself, and David Lynch showed up in that abomination, The Cleveland Show. Probably the unfunniest show that has ever found its way to primetime. What a genius like Lynch was doing on that trash, I have no idea.

[Mountain Man]

I am SO glad I don't watch this show!

I saw Seth MacFarlane on an episode of Shark Tank --- wow, he was a real jerk.

To be fair, most of the "stars" on Shark Tank can be real jerks.

[Cow Poke]

To be fair, most of the "stars" on Shark Tank can be real jerks.

I wouldn't necessarily say "most", but it's certainly true of Cuban and O'Leary.

I have to say, though, that Foxworthy brought a certain 'sophistication' to the show!

[Mountain Man]

Yeah, I can't stand his garbage. When the first couple of seasons of Family Guy first popped up as DVDs after the show was initially cancelled, I thought it was sort of funny, especially since I was raised in Pawtucket, RI, which he often makes mention of, but the type of jokes he makes are just in such bad taste, and are so unfunny and disturbing that I can't bring myself to watch anything he touches anymore. What's doubly sad for me is that some of my favorite actors and directors keep working with him, and I can't figure out why. So, for instance, Patrick Stewart has voiced a few characters in his shows, including as himself, and David Lynch showed up in that abomination, The Cleveland Show. Probably the unfunniest show that has ever found its way to primetime. What a genius like Lynch was doing on that trash, I have no idea.

Pretty typical for modern day "comedians". Seems like nobody actually tells jokes any more, they just try to shock the audience by being as offensive as possible.

[Cow Poke]

Pretty typical for modern day "comedians". Seems like nobody actually tells jokes any more, they just try to shock the audience by being as offensive as possible.

YEARS ago, we had a "free HBO weekend", and Cosby was doing a comedy routine. It was disgusting - full of F bombs and lewd 'jokes'.... and, apparently he did that for a while, because it was cheap laughs from a bunch of drunks in a night club.

On the other hand, you get a guy like Jerry Clowers who can have you laughing so hard it hurts, and never a cuss word or "adult content" aspect whatsoever.

[Zymologist]

YEARS ago, we had a "free HBO weekend", and Cosby was doing a comedy routine. It was disgusting - full of F bombs and lewd 'jokes'.... and, apparently he did that for a while, because it was cheap laughs from a bunch of drunks in a night club.

On the other hand, you get a guy like Jerry Clowers who can have you laughing so hard it hurts, and never a cuss word or "adult content" aspect whatsoever.

Victor Borge, man. Victor Borge.

[Mountain Man]

YEARS ago, we had a "free HBO weekend", and Cosby was doing a comedy routine. It was disgusting - full of F bombs and lewd 'jokes'.... and, apparently he did that for a while, because it was cheap laughs from a bunch of drunks in a night club.

On the other hand, you get a guy like Jerry Clowers who can have you laughing so hard it hurts, and never a cuss word or "adult content" aspect whatsoever.

Rodney Dangerfield is hilarious even though he was considered "edgy" for his time.

"I got a call from a girl. She told me, 'Come on over, there's nobody home.' I went over. There was nobody home!"

[Sparko]

I wouldn't necessarily say "most", but it's certainly true of Cuban and O'Leary.

I have to say, though, that Foxworthy brought a certain 'sophistication' to the show!

The only one of the regulars I ever really liked was Robert Herjavec (and sometimes Daymond John)

What do you think about Mark Cuban talking about running for President? eek.

[Cow Poke]

The only one of the regulars I ever really liked was Robert Herjavec (and sometimes Daymond John)

So much of the time, Robert seemed like a genuine good guy. Sometimes he "did the deal" just because he liked "the story" of the person doing the pitch - resonating with the story of his own father being the floor sweeper in a factory, etc.... It really bummed me out when my wife told me that Robert divorced his wife of over 20 years

What do you think about Mark Cuban talking about running for President? eek.

Cuban can be one of the biggest jerks on Shark Tank, so .... Trump has forged a path for him?

[Zymologist]

Victor Borge, man. Victor Borge.

I'm not the only one around here who's familiar with this guy, right?