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McCain my kind of Republican!!!!
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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostMcCain is my kind of Republican!"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostUnlikely. Picking Palin as his running mate reinvigorated his otherwise sagging campaign, but I do recall pundits pointing out that this didn't speak well for McCain's chances when people were more excited about the vice presidential candidate than they were about the presidential candidate. One of the reasons he chose Palin is because the public was simply losing interest in him as a candidate.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostPretty sure Palin was a negative. She wasn't necessarily the single solitary reason he lost, but she sure was an avoidable loss. She certainly was the reason I didn't vote for McCain.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Most of the base that Palin invigorated would have voted for McCain anyway, so I feel comfortable saying she was probably a net loss. At the same time, McCain was so far behind in the polls that it was a very justifiable Hail Mary decision to pick her."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostMost of the base that Palin invigorated would have voted for McCain anyway,...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostProblem with English here, and incomplete."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt seems to me that she drew rather more votes than she turned away. McCain was not a good candidate, and she really energized the conservative base.
I'm not sure how much "energizing" the conservative base, considering the conservative base, has shown they'll just vote for the Republican even if they don't seem to actually care for him that much (granted, the liberal base is pretty similar towards the Democrats). Someone can counter by saying Trump had Pence to better attract conservatives, but it's not like McCain couldn't have picked any other number of stalwart Republicans as a vice president to still get that effect.
The issue here is the swing voters, and from what I can tell a lot of them were turned off by Palin. Granted, much of my reasoning for this is anecdotal, so I decided to try to see if I could find non-anecdotal evidence for it. A paper from 2010 concluded that McCain lost 2% of the vote as a result of Palin, though to get any specific information about the methodology you have to sign up for a subscription, so obviously I can't judge its accuracy (though some of it is shown here). Of course, McCain lost by 7%, meaning Palin's adverse 2% effect wouldn't have cost him the election, but still indicates that Palin hurt him more than she helped him on election day.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm afraid I'm not smart enough to understand this post.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostMost of the base that Palin invigorated would have voted for McCain anyway, so I feel comfortable saying she was probably a net loss. At the same time, McCain was so far behind in the polls that it was a very justifiable Hail Mary decision to pick her.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe Republicans need to run a black woman for President, like Condoleezza Rice. Then we can call all the democrats who won't vote for her "racist misogynists" and watch their heads explode.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe Republicans need to run a black woman for President, like Condoleezza Rice. Then we can call all the democrats who won't vote for her "racist misogynists" and watch their heads explode.
Are you saying you want to catch the left in obvious hypocrisy?I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe Republicans need to run a black woman for President, like Condoleezza Rice. Then we can call all the democrats who won't vote for her "racist misogynists" and watch their heads explode.
Don't think so? Awhile back I wrote several posts about how liberals treat black conservatives. Here's the part on Rice
Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
For example, let's start with the former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
Los Angeles TimesBoston Globe's"Is you there 'cause you a high-toned public Negro?
Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart?
Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza?
Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars.
Georgie junior says he trusts you, Condoleezza.
Who said our [unintelligible] off the greedy oil woes.
But then he make you clean all the White House bathrooms.
The public sink, the toilet and let's scrub the floors."
The NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton... noneWho do Tom Ass Clarence Work for
Who doo doo come out the Colon's mouth
Who know what kind of Skeeza is a Condoleeza
Once again, imagine the reaction if a conservative had said similar things about liberal blacks...
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