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Antifa are officially domestic terrorists
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Now maybe liberal mayors will no longer order their police departments to turn a blind eye to their violent activities. But then again given how many are willing to defy the law with regards to immigration probably not.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostGood job. Always disliked Antifa, as does many liberals by the way.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThe attempt of extremists here on TWeb, as well as elsewhere, try to tie these groups as part of the mainstream. Antifa being part of liberalism, and white supremacism being part of conservatism. Both are lies.
The Alt-Right racists (racial realists as they call themselves) are a bit more concerning. It really is hard to tell how many they are. I think many young men get drawn into that movement because of the inherent anti-PC in saying racist things.
However all these liberal radical elements are something that really angers me, because they pretty much stole the light from the BLM movement. I also blame the news for giving too much focus to that part of the story, but even then, the tragedy of the terrorist who killed all the cops is sad.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostTo be fair with you I'm a bit more concerned about the white supremacists, its really hard to gauge their numbers, but so far they're harmless. Even in Denmark we have neo-nazies and nobody cares about them. They have a little skinhead nazi-parade every year with people booing at them, and the police showing up, a fight breaks out and the nazies are broken up as a group. There can't be any significant amount of nazies in the US.
The Alt-Right racists (racial realists as they call themselves) are a bit more concerning. It really is hard to tell how many they are. I think many young men get drawn into that movement because of the inherent anti-PC in saying racist things.
However all these liberal radical elements are something that really angers me, because they pretty much stole the light from the BLM movement. I also blame the news for giving too much focus to that part of the story, but even then, the tragedy of the terrorist who killed all the cops is sad.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Last edited by rogue06; 09-02-2017, 03:43 PM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Story continues at link above.
It does seem rather common to find out that college and university professors are identified among those among antifa rioting at the lager incidents.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey're not completely harmless and we should continue to keep an eye on them, but compared to the violent movements on the left like antifa they are not a major problem.
In the last decade in the US, the number of right-wing terrorist attacks has been about double that of Muslim terrorist attacks, with a third of the successful right-wing terrorist attacks causing fatalities. Whereas the fatalities from left-wing terrorist attacks...? ~tumbleweed~
How, not merely utterly delusional, but willfully wrong and unhinged do you have to be to seriously claim that "the violent moments on the left... are... [the] major problem"?! You've crossed boundary from laughable stupidity into literal insanity."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNow maybe liberal mayors will no longer order their police departments to turn a blind eye to their violent activities. But then again given how many are willing to defy the law with regards to immigration probably not.
It's not that violence that bothered me. Without proper policing or proper marshalls, it was no surprise. The two things of concern were the one fatality, which I would classify as terrorism, and the presence of Nazis. I don't believe all the rightists were actually Nazis, but it doesn't appear from the recordings that they separated themselves from it.Last edited by hedrick; 09-02-2017, 05:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
In the last decade in the US, the number of right-wing terrorist attacks has been about double that of Muslim terrorist attacks, with a third of the successful right-wing terrorist attacks causing fatalities. Whereas the fatalities from left-wing terrorist attacks...? ~tumbleweed~
How, not merely utterly delusional, but willfully wrong and unhinged do you have to be to seriously claim that "the violent moments on the left... are... [the] major problem"?! You've crossed boundary from laughable stupidity into literal insanity.
"THEY'RE NOT KILLING PEOPLE!!!" Screams dimbulb while flat ignoring riots, suppression of rights, beatings, rapes, stabbing, and other kinds of violence extreme liberal mobs have been responsible for. Of course the increases in cop killings directly linked to extreme liberals is too ignored. Once a liberal hack, always one eh?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
In the last decade in the US, the number of right-wing terrorist attacks has been about double that of Muslim terrorist attacks, with a third of the successful right-wing terrorist attacks causing fatalities. Whereas the fatalities from left-wing terrorist attacks...? ~tumbleweed~
How, not merely utterly delusional, but willfully wrong and unhinged do you have to be to seriously claim that "the violent moments on the left... are... [the] major problem"?! You've crossed boundary from laughable stupidity into literal insanity.
You also continue to miss the point, which is that left wing terrorism is aided and abetted by the state, whereas right wing terrorism is not."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by hedrick View PostIn fairness, it wasn't antifa that caused the problem in Charlottesville. They were certainly there. The one count I saw said about 20 of them. But all the accounts suggest that as long as they were separate, both sides were non-violent, although I think the Right was menacing. Based on reports from both sides, it's reasonably clear that the violence was relatively low-level, and occurred from hot tempers on both sides.
It's not that violence that bothered me. Without proper policing or proper marshalls, it was no surprise. The two things of concern were the one fatality, which I would classify as terrorism, and the presence of Nazis. I don't believe all the rightists were actually Nazis, but it doesn't appear from the recordings that they separated themselves from it.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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