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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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And you're excited about the prospect.
Probably for the best that everyone finally understands all the fake outrage and made-up complaints about Obama, Biden, et al. were just an exercise in creating a permission structure for what you yourself are totally jazzed about seeing done.
-Sam
"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View Post
And you're excited about the prospect.
Probably for the best that everyone finally understands all the fake outrage and made-up complaints about Obama, Biden, et al. were just an exercise in creating a permission structure for what you yourself are totally jazzed about seeing done.
-Sam
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Originally posted by Sam View PostWhat, exactly, is to stop a president from accepting a $10 billion bribe now? Impeachment? Even if a president were to be impeached and convicted over such a thing, why should they care if they can keep the money and not worry about being charged afterward?
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
As a practical matter, the Republican party would never allow Trump to be convicted.
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According to the Roberts majority, Biden can order the destruction of all the material relating to Hur's investigation and Garland can't be subpoenaed to testify that he warned Biden this would be illegal. Total immunity now, presumptive immunity with a strong shield of protection after Biden's term ends. DOJ can respond to this subpoena by saying "the audio files have been destroyed, nothing we can do".
Great system y'all are caping for here.
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-Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View Post
And you're excited about the prospect.
Probably for the best that everyone finally understands all the fake outrage and made-up complaints about Obama, Biden, et al. were just an exercise in creating a permission structure for what you yourself are totally jazzed about seeing done.
-Sam
First of all, I'm not buying this liberal nonsense that anything a president does can be arbitrarily called an official act (no, Trump can't order Seal Team 6 to assassinate his political rivals and call it an "official act"); and second, Congress retains the power to remove a lawless president from office, and then he can be prosecuted for his crimes in civil court.
What this ruling effectively does is prevent a president from being harassed by frivolous lawsuits after leaving office.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Theoretically, at least, impeachment would remove the immunity:
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
As a practical matter, the Republican party would never allow Trump to be convicted.
-SamLast edited by Sam; 07-01-2024, 05:32 PM."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View Post
Biden is, actually. And all the complaints about Biden using the DOJ to target his opponents, misdirected as they were, are complaints about something SCOTUS just ruled is both legal and not subject to thorough investigation by a subsequent DOJ.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
You know it's true.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sam View PostAccording to the Roberts majority, Biden can order the destruction of all the material relating to Hur's investigation and Garland can't be subpoenaed to testify that he warned Biden this would be illegal. Total immunity now, presumptive immunity with a strong shield of protection after Biden's term ends. DOJ can respond to this subpoena by saying "the audio files have been destroyed, nothing we can do".
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
The Hur tapes are far less relevant now that Biden exposed his cognitive decline for the whole country to see.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
Are you suggesting that Trump use those agencies to go after his perceived enemies?
-Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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