Texas, Five Other States Considering Secession

[Roy]

LiMiTeD GoVeRnMeNt

Limited Government = You must display our religious posters.

[Sparko]

GOP is giving tax cuts to billionaires.

and the middle class. Heck Trump is promising to not tax tips. Not sure how he could do that though.

Still vague. Getting rid of the EPA isn’t going to help.

It needs reform though. We need a balanced budget and need to cut out the pork projects to start with.

How has your freedom of religion been curtailed? The Decalogue demands the worship of one specific God.

Forcing Christians to make gay wedding cakes and rent out venues for gay weddings is an example.

[Sparko]

Sparko, it's one of the basic principles of politics 101 that conservatives tend to want more government control than liberals.

Consider the basic differences between liberalism and conservatism as they exist currently in the US:
- Conservatives want more government prohibitions on whether women can have abortions, liberals want fewer such government prohibitions.

Conservatives (SCOTUS) turned that decision over to state governments and the liberals cried.

- Conservatives want more government prohibitions on who can enter the country, liberals want fewer such government prohibitions.

Not actually. We want the government to enforce the laws it already has instead of ignoring them or bypassing them. Or let states like Texas take over guarding their own border.

- Conservatives want more government prohibitions on what substances someone can smoke / take, liberals want fewer such government prohibitions.

Again, turn it over to the states.

- Conservatives want more government prohibitions on who can get married to each other (same sex marriage), liberals want fewer such government prohibitions.

No. We just want it to go back to the way it was. Or at least stop trying to force others to play along with the left's delusions, and making conservatives/christians participate in gay weddings.

- Conservatives want more government prohibitions on what changes people can medically make to their bodies (transgenderism), what bathrooms they can enter, and what sports teams they can compete on, liberals want fewer such government prohibitions.
etc.

Nope. We just want them to stop doing it to children. If they are adults they can do what they want.

[Sparko]

Limited Government = You must display our religious posters.

That's a STATE decision. The Federal government has nothing to do with it. Exactly how it should be in limited government.

[rogue06]

GOP is giving tax cuts to billionaires.

Here we go yet again.

I expect this sort of empty-headed parroting of nonsense from little jimmy, but you really should know better.

In reality, according to the Heritage Foundation:

• “Tax cuts as a percentage of taxes paid in 2017 were largest for the lowest-income Americans and smallest for the top 1 percent, measured by adjusted gross income (AGI).
• “Similarly, the percentage decrease in effective tax rates was about 5 percent for the highest-income group, and 16 percent for the half of Americans whose income is below the median.
• “After the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 (TCJA), higher-income taxpayers now pay a larger share of all taxes. By this metric, the income tax system was made more progressive. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 40 percent of income taxes in 2018, and 38 percent in 2017.”

OTOH, Old Joe's weaponized IRS is focusing on going after waitresses tips and targeting families making less than $400,000/year while funneling our money into Green programs that even the left has admitted is a major boon for the top 1%

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Texas, Five Other States Considering Secession

Interesting that this isn't a "Red State" thing...

In one of the stranger stories we've needed to cover during an already bizarre presidential administration, conditions around the country have apparently deteriorated to the point where six states are currently considering seceding from the union and striking out on their own. Texas is leading the charge, with independence campaigners running advertisements and sending out promotional material encouraging others to get on board. The Texas state GOP included a statement of support for an independence referendum in this year's Legislative Priorities and Platform document. There are similar movements afoot in California, New Hampshire, Alaska, Florida, and Louisiana, so this clearly isn't just a "red state" phenomenon. There is no indication yet as to whether any of these efforts have a realistic chance of succeeding, but the White House should probably pay attention because a lot of people are obviously unhappy with the current state of the union. (Newsweek)

is another civil war in the offing?

[rogue06]

Not actually. We want the government to enforce the laws it already has instead of ignoring them or bypassing them. Or let states like Texas take over guarding their own border.
Again, turn it over to the states.

Excellent point. Conservatives haven't so much called for increased laws and regulation but rather simply enforcing the laws already on the books.

[rogue06]

is another civil war in the offing?

Highly doubtful. More like this serves to yet again illustrate just how dissatisfied the American public is with the direction this country is headed.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Highly doubtful. More like this serves to yet again illustrate just how dissatisfied the American public is with the direction this country is headed.

Oh what a pity. I was thinking of using the "popcorn" emoticon for future posts.

One wonders in what direction the good people of those states actually wish to move.

[rogue06]

Oh what a pity. I was thinking of using the "popcorn" emoticon for future posts.

Yeah because civil wars, typically among some of the most violent and bloody wars, are the sort of thing you want happening.

One wonders in what direction the good people of those states actually wish to move.

That is actually one of my gripes with "direction the country is headed" polls. That and they don't indicate who they hold responsible or think can change direction.

[Sparko]

Oh what a pity. I was thinking of using the "popcorn" emoticon for future posts.

One wonders in what direction the good people of those states actually wish to move.

The political pendulum seems to be swinging back towards the conservatives. People are getting sick and tired of the left's wokeness, letting crime run rampant, and their economic disasters.

[Cow Poke]

is another civil war in the offing?

I seriously doubt it. Lots of bluster.

[Cow Poke]

Oh what a pity. I was thinking of using the "popcorn" emoticon for future posts.

One wonders in what direction the good people of those states actually wish to move.

Right.

[Mountain Man]

Not actually. We want the government to enforce the laws it already has instead of ignoring them or bypassing them. Or let states like Texas take over guarding their own border.

On that point, it is actually in the Constitution that one of the jobs of the federal government is to defend the states from invasion, which I think hundreds of thousands of people illegally flooding across the border certainly qualifies.

Article IV Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion...

https://constitution.congress.gov/co...ion/article-4/

[Sparko]

On that point, it is actually in the Constitution that one of the jobs of the federal government is to defend the states from invasion, which I think hundreds of thousands of people illegally flooding across the border certainly qualifies.

Article IV Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion...

https://constitution.congress.gov/co...ion/article-4/

The Feds are failing spectacularly in that mission.